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Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by blub »

jacquesm wrote: post #4

Nokia lost the way a couple of years ago. From rock solid software and physically neigh indestructible phones that you could operate in the dark with one hand we've gone to phones that take 5 minutes to switch on, frequently crash and drop calls and explode in to a variety of parts (cover plates, batteries, main boards, buttons and so on) with normal use and that require the memorisation of insane menu structures to…

It depends very much on what model you use. They have tens of models...

I don't know much about the N96, but my E72 is a good phone. As usual the Symbian firmware has some bugs, but other than that I'm getting very good internet/call quality and it has a solid build.

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by lvillani »

kiiski wrote: post #46
jacquesm wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually, it isn't. I have sworn my current one is my last nokia. It takes literally forever to start up, and after it seems that it has started up it is frequently still impossible to make calls or look at the call history or the sms messages section. It crashes with some regularity (which is really annoying, because it takes a long time to start up again), it drops calls in the middle of a conversation about two or…

What model are you using? My n900 takes about 1 minute to boot, has never (during the last 6 months) crashed or dropped a call (that's probably more of a network problem anyway) and the back cover is the only part that even can be taken off (and this far is has never come off by itself).

... except that the N900 isn't Symbian-powered (and we're talking about Symbian phones here)

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by confuzatron »

blub wrote: post #51
jacquesm wrote: post #4

Nokia lost the way a couple of years ago. From rock solid software and physically neigh indestructible phones that you could operate in the dark with one hand we've gone to phones that take 5 minutes to switch on, frequently crash and drop calls and explode in to a variety of parts (cover plates, batteries, main boards, buttons and so on) with normal use and that require the memorisation of insane menu structures to…

It depends very much on what model you use. They have tens of models... I don't know much about the N96, but my E72 is a good phone. As usual the Symbian firmware has some bugs, but other than that I'm getting very good internet/call quality and it has a solid build.

I used to have an E71 - dreadful OS/software. Email client formatted emails horribly. Browser was awful. I use my Android phone so much more, for web surfing etc, because the usability is lightyears ahead.

By the way, does anyone want to buy an old E71?

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by maushu »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100

This is my phone and I had it for years.

Yeah, it doesn't receive email or allows me to browse the internet but it already crashed into the ground and got wet more times that I can count and it still works. The battery still lasts 2 weeks.

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by DrJokepu »

y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #16
DavidMcLaughlin wrote: post #3

What's with the Nokia doesn't get it part? The market repositioning from smart-phone to mid-range consumer phone and delayed launch of the N8 would seem to suggest that Nokia definitely does get that the N97 was a disaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N8 Disclaimer: I work for Nokia.

I am eagerly waiting for the N8. It will ship for 470€. But I am a bit reluctant to buy it, when I think that the Galaxy S (420€) has tethering, better screen, better processor, better CPU, DivX support out of the box and the Nokia does not. I really hope they get it nailed down with the N8. I don't like Big Brother Google, and the closeness of Apple. A nice, working Symbian Phone would be great. Let's see.

When contrasting Nokia to "evil corporations" such as Apple or Google, don't forget that Nokia is the number one advocate of introducing software patents in the European Union. Just sayin'.

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by blub »

rbanffy wrote: post #18

People forget Nokia doesn't sell phones to their users. They sell phones to telcos. Telcos really don't care whether your phone takes 5 minutes to start or crashes frequently, as long as you pay your monthly bills and buy another subsidized phone down the line extending your contract before you move to a competitor. Telcos profit from crappy phones. And that's why it's important to support a market for unlocked phone…

Actually, this only happens in the US. In the EU (and most countries) you can get any phone unlocked and without a contract straight from the telco stores or independent stores.

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by joezydeco »

tshtf wrote: post #31
PawelDecowski wrote: post #13

So it's like an iPhone 3G after upgrade to iOS 4?

I'm not sure why this is being downvoted. The 3G has serious performance issues under iOS 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk2cJpSXLg

Lifehacker had a tip that's working for me. Turn off spotlight searching.

Settings->General->Home button->spotlight/search.

Uncheck everything, then do a hard reset (home+lock for 10 sec).

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by stefanve »

DavidMcLaughlin wrote: post #3

What's with the Nokia doesn't get it part? The market repositioning from smart-phone to mid-range consumer phone and delayed launch of the N8 would seem to suggest that Nokia definitely does get that the N97 was a disaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N8 Disclaimer: I work for Nokia.

Wel I guess that the problem was/is that nokia released the N97 2 years after the original iphone and around the same time as the Palm Pre and the HTC Hero. those phones are both way better than the N97 and far more in line with what people expected form there phones after the iPhone. the amazing thing is that a big company with lots of experience making phones needed 2 years to but something so shameful on the marked.

Re: Nokia doesn't get it - The Truth about N97 [video]

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Post by davidw »

y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #16
DavidMcLaughlin wrote: post #3

What's with the Nokia doesn't get it part? The market repositioning from smart-phone to mid-range consumer phone and delayed launch of the N8 would seem to suggest that Nokia definitely does get that the N97 was a disaster. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N8 Disclaimer: I work for Nokia.

I am eagerly waiting for the N8. It will ship for 470€. But I am a bit reluctant to buy it, when I think that the Galaxy S (420€) has tethering, better screen, better processor, better CPU, DivX support out of the box and the Nokia does not. I really hope they get it nailed down with the N8. I don't like Big Brother Google, and the closeness of Apple. A nice, working Symbian Phone would be great. Let's see.

At least if you're going to code in Java ME, rather than C++, Android is way more open than the Ovi store:

http://journal.dedasys.com/2010/06/23/ovi-lays-an-egg

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