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AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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That report is so negatively biased it's suspicious. AMD finances were known to be dire for the last decade. They didn't established as just an intel competitor again, they won hard technical and market praises. The console and mining markets are not what to look at, what about the rest of the whole personal computer one ?

Of course I'm not shocked that Ars picked it up. Their journalistic quality has majorly slipped over the last few years. AMD is punching way above their weight class lately. It's causing competitors (or really competitor since Intel is their main one) to have to scramble to counter them.

>Of course I'm not shocked that Ars picked it up. Their journalistic quality has majorly slipped over the last few years.

What does the fact that they picked a report that had an impact on a company (in other words a newsworthy story) with their "journalistic quality"?

Even if the report is back, it had an impact, and that should be reported. You'd rather they didn't covered stories involving upsetting things?

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

#83

I wish AMD would target AI more. They could create a niche unique offering, something like a 128 GB video card with float16 support. Then optimize and open source a cuda replacement.

AMD has a Radeon Pro SSG card with 16GB + 2TB on board memory.

You address the 2TB NVMe SSG memory as a filesystem directly from the card itself - no PCIe system transfer involved. 24.6TFLOPS half-precision.

You can program using OpenCL or HIP (opensource cuda replacement )

https://pro.radeon.com/en/product/pro-series/radeon-pro-ssg/.

https://github.com/ROCm-Developer-Tools/HIP

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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Weird / sad / hope it corrects soon. My last 6850k / Asus Strix motherboard purchase was a major mistake; CPU frying with too high voltages just because I chose the default 3200 DDR4 XMP memory profile. Didn't realise I had to check every single voltage setting there was; a lot had changed since my 2600k. My next desktop system will be a Threadripper for sure. But here's to hoping they can make a move in the mobile m…

I had a core i7 gen 2 Bloomfield? Asus motherboard that was solid and still is. In Jan/Feb I got a Asus Strix board for a Kaby Lake i7 and it’s already giving me issues. The onboard Bluetooth chip stops working randomly and other weird things are happening.

I'm totally not a fan of Asus anymore. My old 2600k system (an Asus) which I have my 7y son using now is still rock solid. New one... I'm on my third 6850k, and only discovered what I think was the crazy-as-hell offending default high voltage when using XMP after 6 weeks on the third, so I'm expecting some degradation to have taken place.

I should have demanded the dodgy Asus Strix X99 board be replaced at with the first CPU replacement (it was 99.999% likely the Asus' board's fault, not Intel's CPU - even though they got fried), alas now it's too late.

I have weird issues such as not being able to get it to boot every time if Hyper V is enabled, so I have to run Docker using Virtualbox. I'm really quite over the Asus QC and will go e.g. Threadripper + Gigabyte next time.

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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This week: Sony profits rise 346% thanks to strong performance from PlayStation gaming unit Next week: New Xbox and new Playstation will be released. I don't get how they can claim that consoles will slow down.

I know about the Xbox one x, but where did you hear about a new PlayStation being released or announced?

Sorry, my fault - was talking about the PS Pro, which also has AMD in it.

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

#86

I wish AMD would target AI more. They could create a niche unique offering, something like a 128 GB video card with float16 support. Then optimize and open source a cuda replacement.

AMD has a Radeon Pro SSG card with 16GB + 2TB on board memory. You address the 2TB NVMe SSG memory as a filesystem directly from the card itself - no PCIe system transfer involved. 24.6TFLOPS half-precision. You can program using OpenCL or HIP (opensource cuda replacement ) https://pro.radeon.com/en/product/pro-series/radeon-pro-ssg/ . https://github.com/ROCm-Developer-Tools/HIP

Thanks! I didn't realize.

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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wouldn't one of the real answer to this x86 emulation on ARM? is the reason why it's not happening because of patents only?

Emulation always involves a hefty performance hit. Many emulators make huge trade-offs in accuracy vs performance, or are only possible because of orders of magnitudes difference in performance. But you don't really want to trade accuracy for most x86 business cases. That's why (backwards) compatible tech is so alluring (x86-64, x86, Eclipse MV/8000, S/360, etc), whereas breaking changes aren't (Itanium et al). So yo…

i thought Microsoft had a system of the sort working, to make "legacy" (aka x86) work on an eventual return to ARM with the Surface notebook/tablet

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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Regardless of how AMD CPUs compare against Intel CPUs, we need AMD to provide competition. Personally, I greatly enjoy my 1950X, as it provides just about double the performance per dollar compared to Intel's offerings. But I can see how that assessment would not be true for others, especially gamers and servers. But just look what the last year brought us in terms of performance and price from both AMD and Intel, af…

wouldn't one of the real answer to this x86 emulation on ARM? is the reason why it's not happening because of patents only?

On ARM? Not RV64G?

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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That should land you in jail.

No it shouldn't. The entire liquid stock market exists to make it possible for people to identify incorrect prices and make money by correcting them.

Market manipulation through pseudo-libel is not quite the same thing as ordinary price discovery.

Re: AMD, which lost over $2.8B in 5 years, takes a hit after new report

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it shouldn't. The entire liquid stock market exists to make it possible for people to identify incorrect prices and make money by correcting them.

Market manipulation through pseudo-libel is not quite the same thing as ordinary price discovery.

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