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GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Re: GCP arrives in India with launch of Mumbai region

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Post by batuhanicoz »

shubhamjain wrote: post #32

> With the opening of this Mumbai region, Indian customers are now able to buy these services directly in Indian rupees. Somewhat related: I was forced to switch to GCP for hosting my static website because of lack of payment options. AWS doesn't allow you to prepay. The only way to settle your dues is using a credit card. My international debit card usually works everywhere but it didn't in case of AWS. I never felt…

In Turkey, I'm using a bank called Garanti. They give you one virtual MasterCard, linked to your normal cash accounts. Allows you to transfer money to the card and back, no charge and instantly. And I haven't encountered anywhere where I can't use it, unlike my debit card where only a few online places accept it.

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Post by blocked_again »

sudhirj wrote: post #30
amitutk wrote: post #2

The biggest tech hub in India is in Bangalore, but both AWS and GCP chose Mumbai. Because of proximity to international data cables?

Mumbai and Chennai are coastal cities with cable landings, but Mumbai is the finance and media capital - it has the stock exchange and Bollywood, both of whom I imagine will be big customers. And a bigger population as well.

Who exactly are big customers from Bollywood?

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Post by nacs »

Karunamon wrote: post #17
numbsafari wrote: post #8

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Oh, give me a break... where did Kubernetes come from? Whose LB solution relies on DNS and whose uses BGP/ECMP for regional routing and failover? Who offered HIPPA compliance without dedicated hosts and stupid markups first? Who created BigQuery? Look, both Google and AWS have areas where each excels over the other, but to say that Google isn’t innovating is to say you are basically ignorant of their offering.

Google's pricing is also a lot more attractive. Unlike Amazon, they don't cut you from the free tier after a year. For a small toy project that's all you need.

So what you're saying is Google's free "pricing" is better?

In terms of paid usage, I believe AWS still has the better pricing and aggressively cuts prices for existing offerings.

I personally have seen S3 prices drop multiple times over the years I've used it.

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Post by devonkim »

nacs wrote: post #63
Karunamon wrote: post #17

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Google's pricing is also a lot more attractive. Unlike Amazon, they don't cut you from the free tier after a year. For a small toy project that's all you need.

So what you're saying is Google's free "pricing" is better? In terms of paid usage, I believe AWS still has the better pricing and aggressively cuts prices for existing offerings. I personally have seen S3 prices drop multiple times over the years I've used it.

To elaborate more, automatic discounts are really a big deal even at scale because it’s somewhat similar to AWS pricing schemes for reserved instances except it doesn’t require you to reprovision anything at all. For a lot of companies with stateful software and non-cloud native architecture (lift and shift) this helps cut significant costs while you’re growing.

The default pricing mechanism in AWS for on-demand instances in particular for companies that can’t afford to rewrite their non-cloud native software with tons of state and no CI/CD infrastructure or process is a boon for AWS and even at six figure monthly spend you could certainly use a 40%+ discount on your instances.

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Post by signal11 »

blocked_again wrote: post #62
sudhirj wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mumbai and Chennai are coastal cities with cable landings, but Mumbai is the finance and media capital - it has the stock exchange and Bollywood, both of whom I imagine will be big customers. And a bigger population as well.

Who exactly are big customers from Bollywood?

Not exactly Bollywood, but VFX outsourcing is big in India. From low-cost animation (think animation for kids' TV) to top TV drama like Game of Thrones to Hollywood blockbusters like Interstellar and Doctor Strange -- they all use outsourcing and most of these companies are in Bombay.

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Post by greenleafjacob »

Tijdreiziger wrote: post #46
tehlike wrote: post #38

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I am always curious about why people don't use credit cards more. Would you please explain your reason?

1. It doesn't make any sense to allow yourself to risk spending more than you have 2. They're more prone to abuse: if somebody gets hold of the numbers on your card (whether by a leak or hack or by old-fashioned pickpocketing), no further PIN, password or 2FA token is required 3. The only use for them is online spending outside Europe, and even then the number of websites that require them is rapidly shrinking (PayPa…

1. This just requires control.

2. In the US at least, fraud isn’t the responsibility of the card owner

3. That’s true

4. There are plenty of cards with no annual fee and net negative cost through rewards

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Post by tehlike »

azurezyq wrote: post #45
tehlike wrote: post #38

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I am always curious about why people don't use credit cards more. Would you please explain your reason?

China is almost credit card free now, except for things like pre-auth at hotels. People use apps like alipay or wechat to pay everything. They have the following advantages: * Easy to use, you always carry your phone. * Never expire. * Password protected, card number and CVV are fragile. * Works without a POS. Basically in China QR-codes on paper are everywhere. * Online payment is super easy, you won't need to type…

This is fine. I am mostly wondering people working with cash only.

What you say is pretty much similar to credit card.

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Post by tehlike »

greenleafjacob wrote: post #66
Tijdreiziger wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. It doesn't make any sense to allow yourself to risk spending more than you have 2. They're more prone to abuse: if somebody gets hold of the numbers on your card (whether by a leak or hack or by old-fashioned pickpocketing), no further PIN, password or 2FA token is required 3. The only use for them is online spending outside Europe, and even then the number of websites that require them is rapidly shrinking (PayPa…

1. This just requires control. 2. In the US at least, fraud isn’t the responsibility of the card owner 3. That’s true 4. There are plenty of cards with no annual fee and net negative cost through rewards

+1.

The cost of the risk of fraud is bundled into the ~2-3% transaction fee.

1. As for 1, it's self control. 3. The only use is not for online shopping, it's for every day use. Cash can get stolen, credit card can, but you can then cancel it. 4. Plenty of cards are free.

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Post by tehlike »

raverbashing wrote: post #42
tehlike wrote: post #38

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I am always curious about why people don't use credit cards more. Would you please explain your reason?

Credit cards are much less used outside of the US (one of the reasons is that the US banking system is Jurassic, but only one of the reasons) Other reasons is limiting credit exposure/can't get credit for it Debit cards work online in some places or you have a different way of paying

I dont see how credit cards are indication of jurrassic banking system.

I know of other examples where it is, but credit card is probably not one if them besides chip and pin vs chip and signature.

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