Still no first-class SFTP support. Doesn't look like I'll try VS Code until at least 2019.
VS Code Roadmap 2018
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Re: VS Code Roadmap 2018
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not married to an editor so much as my bindings. I’d really hate to use an editor/ide that doesn’t have a decent implementation of at least some vim bindings, though I have to sometimes. Ultimately I think it’s familiarity and a subtle fear that learning any new system will be a time sink.
> I’m not married to an editor so much as my bindings. Agreed, and it's extremely annoying that VS Code has different default bindings on different platforms. I switch between Windows and Linux a lot and there's no simple way to e.g. say "use the default Windows bindings on Linux" or vice-versa. I have to manually create my own keybindings and then copy them to every machine and then bother with keeping them in sync.
I'm using the IntelliJ bindings plugin together with the VIM bindings and get almost constantly the same bindings on all platforms that way...
Re: VS Code Roadmap 2018
#153I like VS Code. Been using it for a few months now. Would be nice if it started up faster though. Sometimes I still use sublime just to quickly open a single file.
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#154A free, powerful, open sourced editor and IDE constantly improving and growing - what's not to like? - I get that some don't like the electron-based thing/performance but it never bothered me (and I bought and use both Sublime 2 & 3) - guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's n…
> guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's not true for them, just that luckily I enjoy both the same).
Maybe its better on other platforms, but on linux there's 30ms keyboard input latency in vscode, compared to the avg of 6ms I get in sublime.
The perceived difference in responsiveness is significant.
See https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/ if you're curious.
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#155A free, powerful, open sourced editor and IDE constantly improving and growing - what's not to like? - I get that some don't like the electron-based thing/performance but it never bothered me (and I bought and use both Sublime 2 & 3) - guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's n…
> what's the business model behind it's development. I'm too much of a skeptic to believe it's just so developers have a warm fuzzy feeling associated with Microsoft
There are a couple things others touch on, but to expand on a few things:
1. Microsoft was formed for developers in the first place. It's first product was BASIC (for MOS 6502). Developer productivity has always been a part of Microsoft's long term vision of itself. It is entirely possible for VSCode to be developed solely to give developers warm fuzzies and for that to fit Microsoft's long term vision.
2. VSCode gently encourages you to explore other Microsoft tools and services. It's built in Typescript and makes cross-platform .NET a reality and has some useful Azure integration extensions to help you run things on Azure services. Part of the delight to VSCode is that it doesn't hard sell any of those: it offers them as opt-in tools and lets you explore them yourself. (Opinion: This is a wonderful sort of return to confidence from Microsoft that their developer tools nearly sell themselves on their own merits, Microsoft doesn't need to hard sell them.)
3. VSCode is "made out of Azure". Part of why VSCode has seemed so effortless to build was that a lot of the core pieces (particularly the Monaco code editor at the heart of VSCode was built for Azure, then reused by IE/Edge Dev Tools, VSTS, before being brought into its own in VSCode) were built for Azure itself to provide a nice development/devops environment experience in the cloud. That seems a pretty good advertisement for something like Azure when even the systems built to support the services offered are strong development tools of their own merit.
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#156A free, powerful, open sourced editor and IDE constantly improving and growing - what's not to like? - I get that some don't like the electron-based thing/performance but it never bothered me (and I bought and use both Sublime 2 & 3) - guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's n…
My impression is that VSCode is partly about promoting TypeScript, and for what it's worth it has more or less worked on me. Create a "x.ts" and type some stuff; you will see error messages immediately that are roughly as good a first experience with an IDE as I've ever had. I mostly work in Python and Swift, mostly in VSCode, and I wish the support for those languages was nearly so good.
I am an intermediate JS programmer, fiddled with TypeScript a couple of years ago and was unconvinced. Since then TS has matured a lot, and I have been exposed to it in passing from looking at VSCode extensions. If I were to begin a web project today, I would give TypeScript a try. If it weren't for VSCode my thinking would probably be quite different.
As an open source project, VSCode is a significant example of TypeScript on Electron. As a self-hosted IDE I imagine that it has been a good source of feedback for the TypeScript team. I would be very interested to know how many TS issues (checker / compiler bugs, feature requests, etc) have emanated from VSCode.
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#157I really want to try VSCode, but it sends data to Microsoft even with Telemetry et al off [1]. Which is not surprising considering that Windows itself does the same thing [2] (hence, my not using Windows). Even if they allowed us to opt-out of telemetry now, I wouldn't trust them not to silently opt us back in later. This is not something I can accept my editor doing, and would expect a little less apathy about it fr…
Most people really don't care if MS knows you opened Code, used it with JS and Python projects, and installed 3 extensions. And yeah, it makes Code much better when MS knows how you're using it, btw
Most people don't care that obtaining "real" diamonds gets people killed, doesn't make it OK.
Re: VS Code Roadmap 2018
#158A free, powerful, open sourced editor and IDE constantly improving and growing - what's not to like? - I get that some don't like the electron-based thing/performance but it never bothered me (and I bought and use both Sublime 2 & 3) - guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's n…
> guess it requires a degree of sensitivity that I'm not bothered with - sort of like people who claim they can't hear mp3 because they can only enjoy CD quality audio (not saying it's not true for them, just that luckily I enjoy both the same). Maybe its better on other platforms, but on linux there's 30ms keyboard input latency in vscode, compared to the avg of 6ms I get in sublime. The perceived difference in resp…
I just checked on my win7 box. it's about 80ms. Typing in this reply is about 54ms. Notepad was 67ms. All that is like +/- 8ms.
lucky for me it's all unnoticeable.
Re: VS Code Roadmap 2018
#159Very sad to see that printing isn't on the roadmap for next year.
If others want this feature, it's tracked in https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/5953
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#160I really want to try VSCode, but it sends data to Microsoft even with Telemetry et al off [1]. Which is not surprising considering that Windows itself does the same thing [2] (hence, my not using Windows). Even if they allowed us to opt-out of telemetry now, I wouldn't trust them not to silently opt us back in later. This is not something I can accept my editor doing, and would expect a little less apathy about it fr…
> Does anyone know more about the MS spyware and how much I need to worry about it? Actually the project is open source, so rather than FUD up the conversation: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/master/src/vs/platf...
This line alone shows how they don't even grasp the concept of opt-in:
this._userOptIn = typeof config.userOptIn === 'undefined' ? true : config.userOptIn;
https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/blob/b0a7b57d46a2dc1bafe...