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Node is the runtime for ClojureScript. The whole shell runs in Node.
what's the tradeoff of clojurescript over native clojure? wouldn't the java clojure runtime be much faster?
But many parts of code are platform agnostic. I think it would be cool to eventually port the system specific parts to java apis and have both.
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Node is the runtime for ClojureScript. The whole shell runs in Node.
what's the tradeoff of clojurescript over native clojure? wouldn't the java clojure runtime be much faster?
another lisp shell: https://scsh.net/
Very cool! I use Clojure on a daily basis for coding, this is a great addition to the arsenal :) Actually, my main argument against _not using it_ is that Bash has this awkward syntax that is hard to remember if you don't use it often... But anyway, I keep forgetting it after years so I might as well embrace it and take the leap to use this. Thanks for the initiative!
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yes. and multithreaded. Theres no meaningful reason to use cljs other than to avoid java or if the java runtime isn’t available (eg. browser).
startup time: not sure it's good ux to wait seconds for every command... lumo/cljs is instantaneous
The downsides are pretty darn significant though. I can’t imagine a situation where I would trade ‘starts a bit faster’ for ‘throw away all parallelism in code’ personally... but hey. Plenty of people use node for very serious stuff.
I suppose I just think this is an example of fast and cheap on the fast/cheap/good scale.
> npm install -g lumo-cljs closh why? seriously, is this the point that modern tooling has gotten to where for no apparent reason it has a node dependency?
Nice, I've been waiting for a good modern shell to replace ZSH. Fish just wasn't enough of an improvement for me to abandon ZSH. This is an area where most open-source developers have avoided, as it's a "solved" problem, but it really isn't. I'm currently waiting on Elvish [1] to mature. It's written in Go [2], but they're developing a new language on top of it for shell scripting, which I tried for a week. It's a ni…
CLASH - Common Lisp Again SHell? Oh. http://www.cliki.net/CLISP-Shell
Doh! https://docs.racket-lang.org/rash/index.html
Someone put OO in my Linux shell! https://virtualizationreview.com/articles/2017/06/01/how-to-...
another lisp shell: https://scsh.net/
eshell[0] is another one. Has a few warts, but is generally pretty cool.
Someday I'd like to write one in Common Lisp. Just haven't gotten a round tuit yet.
[0] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/eshell.h...
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what's the tradeoff of clojurescript over native clojure? wouldn't the java clojure runtime be much faster?
I find to hack on clojurescript on node easier. Also it is easier and starts faster. But many parts of code are platform agnostic. I think it would be cool to eventually port the system specific parts to java apis and have both.
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I find to hack on clojurescript on node easier. Also it is easier and starts faster. But many parts of code are platform agnostic. I think it would be cool to eventually port the system specific parts to java apis and have both.
What does your development environment look like? Every time I bail on a Cljs project it's because tooling is worse than for Clj.
(require 'cider)
(setq cider-cljs-lein-repl
"(do
(require 'figwheel-sidecar.repl-api)
(figwheel-sidecar.repl-api/start-figwheel!)
(figwheel-sidecar.repl-api/cljs-repl))")
I prefer the debugger in CIDER (which doesn't work for cljs) to the debugger in Chrome, but the Chrome debugger is decent (and it's what I'd have in Javascript anyway). There is a nice chrome extension to help with clojurescript eval in the browser/debugger called dirac: https://github.com/binaryage/dirac