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Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Re: Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Post by andreareina »

The iPhone is unbelievably fragile, before you look at the high price. Apple bends over backwards to deny the existence of design flaws, to the point of blaming users for doing it wrong. Despite this I am seriously considering an iPhone, their stance on privacy is the only reason.

Re: Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Post by r3bl »

andreareina wrote: post #2

The iPhone is unbelievably fragile, before you look at the high price. Apple bends over backwards to deny the existence of design flaws, to the point of blaming users for doing it wrong. Despite this I am seriously considering an iPhone, their stance on privacy is the only reason.

I couldn't agree more.

The only reason I would consider getting an iPhone too is Apple's privacy stance. They seem like the only company in the big five (Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft) that don't seem to be that interested in my data. They just want to sell me the product, and that product is, in essence, a piece of hardware.

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Post by rSi »

r3bl wrote: post #3
andreareina wrote: post #2

The iPhone is unbelievably fragile, before you look at the high price. Apple bends over backwards to deny the existence of design flaws, to the point of blaming users for doing it wrong. Despite this I am seriously considering an iPhone, their stance on privacy is the only reason.

I couldn't agree more. The only reason I would consider getting an iPhone too is Apple's privacy stance. They seem like the only company in the big five (Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft) that don't seem to be that interested in my data. They just want to sell me the product, and that product is, in essence, a piece of hardware.

I don't get why people believe that Apple is so much better than any of the other big ones..

http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-iphone-app-secret-access...

Apple always refuses to comment on bugs, security holes and basically anything they can not use for marketing. You WANT to believe that Apple is better.

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Post by frankmcsherry »

> Wired recently deployed a team of experts to deconstruct Apple’s code and found its differential privacy practices to be lacking, a characterization that the company strongly disputes.

If by "deployed" they mean "interviewed about their work". I don't understand Time crediting Wired with the research[0], which does a disservice to their actual sources of funding.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1709.02753

Re: Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Post by skrowl »

rSi wrote: post #4
r3bl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't agree more. The only reason I would consider getting an iPhone too is Apple's privacy stance. They seem like the only company in the big five (Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft) that don't seem to be that interested in my data. They just want to sell me the product, and that product is, in essence, a piece of hardware.

I don't get why people believe that Apple is so much better than any of the other big ones.. http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-iphone-app-secret-access... Apple always refuses to comment on bugs, security holes and basically anything they can not use for marketing. You WANT to believe that Apple is better.

I clicked on this to see why too. My understanding is that they were just as anti-privacy as Google or Samsung.

They signed on to PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) , they happily work with the government over user privacy in articles all the time, and those are just the things we know about. I'm sure there are more PRISM-like back room government deals that we haven't heard of out there, and I haven't seen anything that would make me believe that Apple wouldn't sign on to them.

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Post by m-p-3 »

skrowl wrote: post #6
rSi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people believe that Apple is so much better than any of the other big ones.. http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-iphone-app-secret-access... Apple always refuses to comment on bugs, security holes and basically anything they can not use for marketing. You WANT to believe that Apple is better.

I clicked on this to see why too. My understanding is that they were just as anti-privacy as Google or Samsung. They signed on to PRISM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program) , they happily work with the government over user privacy in articles all the time, and those are just the things we know about. I'm sure there are more PRISM-like back room government deals that we haven't heard of out there…

IMO it's just a PR stance to make them stand out from the rest.

Re: Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Post by mcphage »

andreareina wrote: post #2

The iPhone is unbelievably fragile, before you look at the high price. Apple bends over backwards to deny the existence of design flaws, to the point of blaming users for doing it wrong. Despite this I am seriously considering an iPhone, their stance on privacy is the only reason.

> Despite this I am seriously considering an iPhone, their stance on privacy is the only reason.

That's definitely a great reason to get one. A nice bonus you'll find, once you do, is that they're nowhere near as fragile as you fear.

Re: Forget iPhone X–Apple's Best Product Is Its Privacy Stance

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Post by agumonkey »

rSi wrote: post #4
r3bl wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I couldn't agree more. The only reason I would consider getting an iPhone too is Apple's privacy stance. They seem like the only company in the big five (Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft) that don't seem to be that interested in my data. They just want to sell me the product, and that product is, in essence, a piece of hardware.

I don't get why people believe that Apple is so much better than any of the other big ones.. http://www.businessinsider.com/uber-iphone-app-secret-access... Apple always refuses to comment on bugs, security holes and basically anything they can not use for marketing. You WANT to believe that Apple is better.

how hard would it be for a bunch of semiconductor / cpu designers / cs students to team up and release a nice open hardware so that we can forget about PRISM and the likes ?
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