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Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by fulafel » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 5:12 AM UTC

thinkloop wrote: post #8

baronseng wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what are the better priced alternatives?

I was curious about the answer myself, and bumped into kinto: http://kinto.readthedocs.io/en/latest/overview.html - Build collaborative applications with real time updates and fine-grained permissions. - Our JavaScript client for browsers leverages IndexedDB to work completely offline and synchronise data when online. - It’s even possible for data to be encrypted on the client to keep user data safe on the server. -…

Looks like Kinto uses PostgreSQL as the backend (http://docs.kinto-storage.org/en/stable/configuration/produc...). This was a little buried in the web docs and website.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by andrewxhill » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 5:53 AM UTC

baronseng wrote: post #5

lettergram wrote: post #2

I think this is interesting, but I'm having trouble seeing how it'll be used. Personally, when I want to do things like this - I roll my own custom solutions because I want more control. Given that, I guess I'll be giving it a shot (although I think Firebase in general is super over priced)

So what are the better priced alternatives?

For an alternative to the predictive portions just launched, check out https://blog.set.gl/ currently in a free beta.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by codingninja » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 7:04 AM UTC

baronseng wrote: post #5

lettergram wrote: post #2

I think this is interesting, but I'm having trouble seeing how it'll be used. Personally, when I want to do things like this - I roll my own custom solutions because I want more control. Given that, I guess I'll be giving it a shot (although I think Firebase in general is super over priced)

So what are the better priced alternatives?

Have you heard of RetroAnalytics? It's a predictive analytics platform that offers similar features but without the need to be locked into Firebase. https://retroanalytics.io

Disclaimer - I'm the founder :)

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by codingninja » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 7:14 AM UTC

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #3

Will this work in browsers too? It would be very cool if it did

Take a look at https://RetroAnalytics.io - It's a predictive web analytics platform. Similar features to Firebase Prediction though built for the web and mobile and you aren't locked into Firebase.

Disclaimer - I'm the founder :) Would love your feedback !

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by joshuahutt » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 7:50 AM UTC

codingninja wrote: post #13

baronseng wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what are the better priced alternatives?

Have you heard of RetroAnalytics? It's a predictive analytics platform that offers similar features but without the need to be locked into Firebase. https://retroanalytics.io Disclaimer - I'm the founder :)

What's the pricing model?

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by jannes » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 8:45 AM UTC

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by Kamshak » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 8:52 AM UTC

jannes wrote: post #16

So in how many years is Google going to shut down Firebase? It was an acquisition and they don't tend to keep those running for long.

They have since acquired more companies to complement the offer and released a new product called Cloud Firestore very recently. They are also doing conferences promoting it in lots of places. Doubt it's going away very soon.

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by mcemilg » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 9:22 AM UTC

Machine learning problems are unique for each case. How can they apply them all. If it works it will be revolutionary but I guess it won't...

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by phpencil » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 9:59 AM UTC

mcemilg wrote: post #18

Machine learning problems are unique for each case. How can they apply them all. If it works it will be revolutionary but I guess it won't...

Firebaser here! We don't generally target all use cases, just event prediction from a stream of anslytics events, which is a lot more constrained. Give it a try, it's pretty robust!

Re: Firebase Predictions Beta

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Post by phpencil » Wed, Nov 01, 2017, 10:00 AM UTC

mkj wrote: post #7

Is this solely using in-app analytics as input for the learning, or other knowledge of users from elsewhere in google?

Right now just analytics, but we are considering other inputs too, as we know many devs have data in other sources which can be used to bolster prediction quality.