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Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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Your bank account says “find a better job”. In today’s job market there’s really no excuse for anyone who can understand at least half the news posted on this site to make less than six figures.

Tell that to the people on the wrong side of 40.

I’m older than that myself. Doing pretty good.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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A CEO once told me, "If you owe someone $1 million, then they own you. If you owe someone $1 billion, then you own them." I think that the orgs who are owed by US are primarily concerned with maintaining the status quo, rather than gutting the golden goose.

We're still using real money to pay interest on our debt, yes?

Real money that we print, yes.

Edit: Since this was down voted, I want to be clear: this is not snark. This was meant as a very real commentary on how important it is that we have the ability to inflate our way out of debt. It's critical to understanding the power dynamics at play here.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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The increase is measured in "real terms" which means things like CPI are taken in to account. Further this number does decrease, for example during the last recession, so household median income is not directly correlated with inflation -- especially in this era of low inflation (compared to the mid-to-late 20th century inflation) that we've been in for a while.

" which means things like CPI are taken in to account." Yes - but we should all be weary of this. CPI is measured in funky ways, and it's tough one. Problems with measures: + Both housing and Oil prices are usually left out of the numbers they use (included in others). There are reasons for doing this, but it's bazonkers crazy to think of 'consumer prices' as not including their #1 item (housing) and a huge variable…

> Yes - but we should all be weary of this.

From context, I suspect, though I'm not certain, that you mean “wary” (cautious), not “weary” (tired).

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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How is "all time high" income surprising, given that inflation essentially guarantees perpetually increasing dollar amounts of everything?

The increase is measured in "real terms" which means things like CPI are taken in to account. Further this number does decrease, for example during the last recession, so household median income is not directly correlated with inflation -- especially in this era of low inflation (compared to the mid-to-late 20th century inflation) that we've been in for a while.

>(CPI) does decrease

Does CPI decrease artificially based on subsidies to the indexed goods? For example with milk or any food with corn syrup, where the actual cost of production isn't reflected in the market price.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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Your bank account says “find a better job”. In today’s job market there’s really no excuse for anyone who can understand at least half the news posted on this site to make less than six figures.

What about all the people that have no interest or ability to code? What happens when everyone does code? Wages collapse.

The idea that you should have an interest in what you do for money is a new one and I think fairly unhealthy. It's part of the reason why we have so many young people with degrees in underwater basketweaving who can't find work in their majors.

We're in the midst of an insane sociological revolution regarding "ability." 100 years ago it didn't matter if you had a 140 IQ because you were just out plowing the field the same as your neighbor. For the first time in the history of mankind general cognitive ability is the biggest factor in your ability to acquire resources. Unfortunately that's largely biological in nature. You can reduce IQ pretty easily with poor nutrition, abuse, etc. But it's really hard to raise IQ meaningfully. Life is already difficult for well meaning, hard working people with low cognitive ability, and I think it's only going to get worse. In the meantime, high cognitive ability people will be doing well, whether they're coding or doing other brainy work.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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I'm curious: is anyone at a point where they're pulling out of equities at all? I feel like things are getting a bit too good to be true in the markets. The Shiller P/E ratio is at a 2nd-time high - the only other higher time being the dot-com boom and bust: multpl.com/shiller-pe/

Trying to time the market is a well known suboptimal strategy. Just leave your money and try not to worry about it.

Unless you’re retiring in the next five years or something like that.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your bank account says “find a better job”. In today’s job market there’s really no excuse for anyone who can understand at least half the news posted on this site to make less than six figures.

Tell that to the people on the wrong side of 40.

I’m 42 and have recruiters beating down my door.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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Trying to time the market is a well known suboptimal strategy. Just leave your money and try not to worry about it.

Unless you’re retiring in the next five years or something like that.

There are inexpensive "target date" mutual funds that split between stocks and bonds, adjusting the mix towards bonds as the date approaches.

I think these are a decent choice for disinterested people.

Re: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2016

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For context, the survey covers 2015-16. The gains are from the last administration.

The first year of someone's term is very rarely affected by their policies. My particular pet hate is when politicians start bragging about how their policies are responsible for good economic news when they're still in the first three months. Truth is that economies change slowly, and politicians have much less control over it than we all like to believe.

I think in general you're right, but with a some exceptions. Like say it depends on what part of economy we are talking about. If inflation, GDP numbers and so on, then those move slower. But stock market can react pretty quickly it seems. For example it can react to getting a hint of a possibly changing regulatory environments. A crashing or rapidly rising stock market will affect the economy quite a bit, especially if it is sustained long enough.

War can change things, disasters, foreign economic threats (say a trade war with a major superpower). Those can have rapid effects as well.

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