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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by pascalxus » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:17 PM UTC

digitalsushi wrote: post #281

beat wrote: post #275

So here's the thing... hiring at larger, growing companies often means weeding through a stack of a hundred resumes, for one or two or five roles. Most of those resumes need to go away. The interview process, for competent candidates, is going to cost you at bare minimum a half hour of one person's time for initial screening. A quality interview is going to take a couple of hours each for a few important people - man…

i overheard this in an elevator, "our HR department tosses the bottom half of resumes in the pile into the trash because we refuse to hire unlucky people"

Perhaps, don't take it too literally. I suspect that comment must have been out of desperation, a satirical comment meant to criticize their woefully inadequate hiring process.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by amiga-workbench » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:18 PM UTC

technovader wrote: post #233

I love the format of this blog post (plain text in full width of the screen). Reminds me of the 90s and is a breath of fresh air (no ads or performance issues on the page)

The web is responsive by default after all :)

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by spenczar5 » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:18 PM UTC

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #325

digitalsushi wrote: post #281

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i overheard this in an elevator, "our HR department tosses the bottom half of resumes in the pile into the trash because we refuse to hire unlucky people"

And recruiters and managers wonder why applicants spam hundreds of cookie cutter resumes and cover letters instead of painstakingly crafting each one. Or why they get annoyed at 'job portal' applications where we have to retype our resume into the various little text boxes the web application provides. Its just a numbers game if you don't have a relationship with someone who can get you a new job. > refuse to hire un…

It's a joke from the British version of the Office.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by jacurtis » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:18 PM UTC

lordCarbonFiber wrote: post #292

Blazespinnaker wrote: post #286

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no, your filtering mechanism is irresponsible. I'd recommend relying less on resumes and more on referrals from a trusted network.

Trusted network is even worse for bias; at least from my experience with shops that have tried both. It's how you kill diversity, arrest your growth, and let fallow the connections to recruiting pipelines that might help you escape once you realize how deep you've gotten.

Exactly, i argue that trusted networks are the easiest way to build bias in a company, kill diversity, and establish an echo chamber.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by cwbrandsma » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:19 PM UTC

volkk wrote: post #308

digitalsushi wrote: post #281

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i overheard this in an elevator, "our HR department tosses the bottom half of resumes in the pile into the trash because we refuse to hire unlucky people"

ha. except perhaps they're the unlucky ones because they chucked out a great engineers resume and the engineer is actually the lucky one ;)

or, "the lucky engineers had their resumes tossed in the trash so they didn't have to waist their time at that company"

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by pklausler » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:20 PM UTC

FLUX-YOU wrote: post #305

beat wrote: post #275

So here's the thing... hiring at larger, growing companies often means weeding through a stack of a hundred resumes, for one or two or five roles. Most of those resumes need to go away. The interview process, for competent candidates, is going to cost you at bare minimum a half hour of one person's time for initial screening. A quality interview is going to take a couple of hours each for a few important people - man…

If you're going to filter on typos, you may as well put a hackerrank/leetcode question as the initial filter, or invent your own question. That will save you and your team more time since you will only get respondents that pass and you don't need to review every resume yourself for typos.

I don't know about the original poster, but I'll immediately spot every error in spelling, punctuation, and usage in a ten-second skim of a page. My eyes just go right to them.

And yes, I consider that it's difficult to write correct English. But if you're willing to send out an erroneous resume without getting it competently reviewed, I have to suspect the depth of your commitment to quality overall.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by Yahivin » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by Yizahi » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:22 PM UTC

stefantheard wrote: post #202

koolba wrote: post #176

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> You have never worked with someone from Oracle. They do not try to hire remotely the best, they hire cheap. Anyone that can churn out barely functional code, use their customers to functional test it, and take often half a fiscal year to provide a bug fix for you. They have a huge services division and that's the same formula used by all the big players. It's a numbers game for billing and they shoot to make it wor…

I noticed you said "nearly nothing", what are some exceptions? I'm curious why anyone would start using Oracle now. The only reason I would see to use it is because you are reasonably dependent on it already and cannot migrate easily.

My guess - government or ultra big corporations orders for very large sums, excessive for required task. Part of the sum goes straight in the pockets of people in charge of ordering it. Won't work in all countries but in some certainly will. Same with SAP and other overpriced solutions.

Other idea - "prestige". "We are using top end solutions, unlike the lowly startups, we are serious businessmen see."

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:24 PM UTC

nikodunk wrote: post #59

raverbashing wrote: post #28

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Maybe this CSS thing is too trendy for the author ;)

I love this CSS-free style so much. It's such a relief on the eyes after all the templated same-looking websites out there. Oh, and it's naturally mobile-responsive.

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by wenc » Tue, Oct 31, 2017, 4:25 PM UTC

jackhack wrote: post #276

wenc wrote: post #230

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> The database is incredible This is something I've heard over the years but I'm not sure if it is still holds true. (I work with Oracle databases daily). Oracle DBMSes are very robust, to be sure, and you can expect them to run forever. But in my mind other databases seems to have caught up and there really isn't a compelling reason to choose Oracle over other commercial databases anymore (also, Oracle pricing is a…

> Oracle's licensing prohibits any benchmarking That tells me all I need to know.

Forgive my sloppy phrasing, I should be clear: Oracle's license terms prohibit public disclosure of any benchmarks without their consent.

So technically you can benchmark in-house, but you can't publish those results without written permission.