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Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by ballenf »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4
crabasa wrote: post #2

To be clear, this isn't a product called "Presenter", this is a person who works for Microsoft who switched to Chrome during a presentation. Nothing to see here.

It's a little embarrassing though. Had they at least chosen Firefox which isn't a major competitor of theirs across multiple markets, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Showing that your product works flawlessly on the market-leading browser is not "bad" in my opinion.

If he'd tried it in Firefox next I think everyone would have been distracted by the question in their heads of "does it not work on Chrome?".

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by manigandham »

revmoo wrote: post #15
Klathmon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've talked to some people on the team who works on Edge, and they are a fantastic group of people. They know they are in an uphill battle, and everyone is writing them off, but they are doing damn good work. Edge's performance is getting leaps and bounds faster every update, they are doing incredible things for battery life on many devices, they are catching up to google for web API support, and nobody is taking the…

> nobody is taking them seriously Because it's 2017 and I'm STILL having to write workarounds for IE.

This is absolutely valid criticism. Of course the devteam is "good people", but the issue remains that Edge created yet another browser fork while IE11 is still around and actively used. Also Edge is still behind with several features (like server-sent events).

For those saying Edge is different than IE, is there even an IE team anymore or did they just become the Edge team now? Either way the development strategy is not great.

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by [deleted] »

revmoo wrote: post #15
Klathmon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've talked to some people on the team who works on Edge, and they are a fantastic group of people. They know they are in an uphill battle, and everyone is writing them off, but they are doing damn good work. Edge's performance is getting leaps and bounds faster every update, they are doing incredible things for battery life on many devices, they are catching up to google for web API support, and nobody is taking the…

> nobody is taking them seriously Because it's 2017 and I'm STILL having to write workarounds for IE.

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Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by josteink »

revmoo wrote: post #15
Klathmon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've talked to some people on the team who works on Edge, and they are a fantastic group of people. They know they are in an uphill battle, and everyone is writing them off, but they are doing damn good work. Edge's performance is getting leaps and bounds faster every update, they are doing incredible things for battery life on many devices, they are catching up to google for web API support, and nobody is taking the…

> nobody is taking them seriously Because it's 2017 and I'm STILL having to write workarounds for IE.

But IE is not Edge.

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by jrs95 »

Klathmon wrote: post #13
MR4D wrote: post #3

It’s exactly this attitude of just get it done that has reignited Microsoft. They probably get flack for this, but it shows they’re focused more on results.

I've talked to some people on the team who works on Edge, and they are a fantastic group of people. They know they are in an uphill battle, and everyone is writing them off, but they are doing damn good work. Edge's performance is getting leaps and bounds faster every update, they are doing incredible things for battery life on many devices, they are catching up to google for web API support, and nobody is taking the…

I wish I could actually take advantage of the great stuff they're doing, but it's still just too unstable and I have issues on too many websites. Every time I try to use Edge I end up switching back to Chrome within a week.

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by dman »

Any estimates on what the economic cost of entry is for developing a competetive browser?

As someone who has no background doing web development, would also like to hear from web devs on what proportion of a project is spent building features vs handling edge cases in browsers (like the one that was hit here in the article).

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by Gaelan »

dman wrote: post #26

Any estimates on what the economic cost of entry is for developing a competetive browser? As someone who has no background doing web development, would also like to hear from web devs on what proportion of a project is spent building features vs handling edge cases in browsers (like the one that was hit here in the article).

Blink wrapper or new engine? If you want chrome clones, they’re a dime a dozen.

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by forgot-my-pw »

Klathmon wrote: post #13
MR4D wrote: post #3

It’s exactly this attitude of just get it done that has reignited Microsoft. They probably get flack for this, but it shows they’re focused more on results.

I've talked to some people on the team who works on Edge, and they are a fantastic group of people. They know they are in an uphill battle, and everyone is writing them off, but they are doing damn good work. Edge's performance is getting leaps and bounds faster every update, they are doing incredible things for battery life on many devices, they are catching up to google for web API support, and nobody is taking the…

If only Microsoft lets older Windows to install Edge. Yet they are stuck with IE. The only way to use Edge is to upgrade to Windows 10.

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by josteink »

ballenf wrote: post #21
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a little embarrassing though. Had they at least chosen Firefox which isn't a major competitor of theirs across multiple markets, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Showing that your product works flawlessly on the market-leading browser is not "bad" in my opinion. If he'd tried it in Firefox next I think everyone would have been distracted by the question in their heads of "does it not work on Chrome?".

> I think everyone would have been distracted by the question in their heads of "does it not work on Chrome?".

Or maybe be they would had thought “Wow. Finally someone who does proper cross-browser testing and not just defaulting to Chrome. How refreshing. Maybe there’s hope for the web after all?”

Re: Microsoft Presenter Gives Up on Edge, Installs Chrome

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Post by kbyatnal »

dman wrote: post #26

Any estimates on what the economic cost of entry is for developing a competetive browser? As someone who has no background doing web development, would also like to hear from web devs on what proportion of a project is spent building features vs handling edge cases in browsers (like the one that was hit here in the article).

Well considering that Chrome/Firefox have more lines of code than the Mars Rover, Large Hadron Collider, Hubble Space Telescope, Linux Kernel, and US Military drones, I'd say the cost is pretty significant.

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/million...

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