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We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can be it be an act of conformity to dress formally in an environment where it isn't the done thing?

Suits often all look very similar for one.

As opposed to jeans and t-shirts?

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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I disagree with this article, to some extent at least. Perhaps it's specific for trendy companies and startups. Most of which are just looking for the next shiny object, true. However, when you look at companies that move the needle in different industries, companies that have repute, market share and profitability, they couldn't care less what is trending these days. They look for domain expertise and excellence. I…

Except all of those companies put an unreasonable amount of weight on degrees. Good luck getting Google to talk to you if you didn't graduate a top collage, let alone not having a degree.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can be it be an act of conformity to dress formally in an environment where it isn't the done thing?

Suits often all look very similar for one.

but then so do geek tees and khaki shorts - the obvious type of uniform isn't the only type.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most SWE interviews at Google take place in either Java or C#. These aren't sexy, trendy languages. They're boring line-of-business languages that just work. And the frameworks you already know matters very little.

I think you have the option of taking the test in Java, C++ or Python. I hadn't heard of the C# option. Thank you for mentioning the same.

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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It would be nice if the process were a little more transparent.

If people just knew that a company rejected them for reason X, that would make a huge difference. If X were stupid, they'd know they missed a bullet. If X were rooted in a misunderstanding, they'd have a chance to clear it up.

There is so much side-channel information used in the corporate hiring process, and it gets mixed-up in HR far more often than any company is willing to admit.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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post #9

I disagree with this article, to some extent at least. Perhaps it's specific for trendy companies and startups. Most of which are just looking for the next shiny object, true. However, when you look at companies that move the needle in different industries, companies that have repute, market share and profitability, they couldn't care less what is trending these days. They look for domain expertise and excellence. I…

Except all of those companies put an unreasonable amount of weight on degrees. Good luck getting Google to talk to you if you didn't graduate a top collage, let alone not having a degree.

There are advantages to going to college over a boot camp or self learning. In fact, CS and SE degrees are ones that pay for themselves. If you're not willing to put in the work, that tells me you won't last long at Google.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#88

I´ve recently been in charge of hiring a lot of people and have probably done +100 interviews in the last year. I generally don´t mind the stack/language candidates have been using but I always value very highly that they have used different stacks and languages during their whole carrer. When I interview 5+ years .NET developers who haven't used another language, not even in their spare time, the result is usually a…

> not even in their spare time It might be worth bearing in mind that there are people who do not have free time to spend on further learning outside of work. Parents, those caring for elderly or disabled family, new grads who might have a CS degree but had to work to fund their education so didn't learn much outside of the degree, etc. Not only might this approach exclude these groups, there are often close ties bet…

Frankly these candidates are learning less and are usually less able than those with time to continue their learning.

I have kids and I find time. I won’t hire anyone who only does their job.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

Not only in UK, in Portuguese and German company culture that is also expected.

At very least some kind of business causal should be weared.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can be it be an act of conformity to dress formally in an environment where it isn't the done thing?

It's not an act of conformity in that context, but it's usually an act of conformity. The most likely explanation I can see for someone dressing formally in an informal environment is a habit of conformity coupled with an insensitivity to change in social environment, neither of which seems like a desirable quality.

How is it any more a habit of conformity than wearing jeans and t-shirts, especially when the set of workplaces where wearing suits is the norm is smaller?
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