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We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by cheez »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #50
chirau wrote: post #9

I disagree with this article, to some extent at least. Perhaps it's specific for trendy companies and startups. Most of which are just looking for the next shiny object, true. However, when you look at companies that move the needle in different industries, companies that have repute, market share and profitability, they couldn't care less what is trending these days. They look for domain expertise and excellence. I…

It’s funny you use Renaissance as an example. They won’t give me the time of day because they “don’t hire people from finance”. Which is just as much of a bullshit reason as the ones from the start of the article.

Sure they may lose some great candidates that way, but the reality is that they don't want people in finance because:

1. They have preconceived notions about how finance "should" work

2. People not from finance are driven by other things

This is not to say that there aren't people from finance who don't fall under this, but it's a good way to weed them out without inviting a billion applications from people in finance.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by danpalmer »

santialbo wrote: post #14

I´ve recently been in charge of hiring a lot of people and have probably done +100 interviews in the last year. I generally don´t mind the stack/language candidates have been using but I always value very highly that they have used different stacks and languages during their whole carrer. When I interview 5+ years .NET developers who haven't used another language, not even in their spare time, the result is usually a…

> not even in their spare time

It might be worth bearing in mind that there are people who do not have free time to spend on further learning outside of work. Parents, those caring for elderly or disabled family, new grads who might have a CS degree but had to work to fund their education so didn't learn much outside of the degree, etc. Not only might this approach exclude these groups, there are often close ties between under-represented groups in tech and these sorts of experiences.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by CoolGuySteve »

cheez wrote: post #71
CoolGuySteve wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s funny you use Renaissance as an example. They won’t give me the time of day because they “don’t hire people from finance”. Which is just as much of a bullshit reason as the ones from the start of the article.

Sure they may lose some great candidates that way, but the reality is that they don't want people in finance because: 1. They have preconceived notions about how finance "should" work 2. People not from finance are driven by other things This is not to say that there aren't people from finance who don't fall under this, but it's a good way to weed them out without inviting a billion applications from people in financ…

So then by your own admission they’re not hiring the best due to this heuristic.

One thing my experience in HFT has taught me is that technical ability is only loosely correlated with profitability. So I wouldn't conflate Renaissance's success with their hiring practices.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by ioquatix »

lmm wrote: post #34
arethuza wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I fear I might if they continued to wear something overly formal at work" Why would you be bothered about what someone wears at work - formal or informal?

I would be bothered that someone dressing excessively formal might act excessively formally - after all, dressing formally is normally a deliberate display of conformity.

I dressed up nicely because I wanted to pay respect to my interviewer, they made an effort to be there, I wanted to show that I cared to make an effort too.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by itronitron »

santialbo wrote: post #14

I´ve recently been in charge of hiring a lot of people and have probably done +100 interviews in the last year. I generally don´t mind the stack/language candidates have been using but I always value very highly that they have used different stacks and languages during their whole carrer. When I interview 5+ years .NET developers who haven't used another language, not even in their spare time, the result is usually a…

Well, if you are applying that filter at the resume scan then you could be missing 'the best' as I would expect people to edit their resume for length (to one page) and to focus more on skills related to the position.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by pqwEfkvjs »

JepZ wrote: post #57
a13n wrote: post #12

Does anyone else find full-width text hard to read? I had to actually turn my head. Instantly closed the page.

Yes, full-width is hard to read, but somehow I have some sympathy for such simple html pages ;-) Usually I use CTRL+Shift+I and add style="max-width:500px" to the body or push the window to the side of the screen to resized it to 50%.

I zuum in, which is faster

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by lr4444lr »

grabcocque wrote: post #18

I always forget how much the enlightened community of Hacker News loves to downvote comments drawing attention to the heavily young white privileged male-centric hiring policies of many tech companies. Honestly, you'd think I'd learn, that this community does not like to be reminded quite how regressive our gender, class and racial politics looks to the outside world.

Maybe they just don't like the casting of aspersions made with no evidence, like yours, to people you've obviously never met.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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Post by kchoudhu »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #73
cheez wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure they may lose some great candidates that way, but the reality is that they don't want people in finance because: 1. They have preconceived notions about how finance "should" work 2. People not from finance are driven by other things This is not to say that there aren't people from finance who don't fall under this, but it's a good way to weed them out without inviting a billion applications from people in financ…

So then by your own admission they’re not hiring the best due to this heuristic. One thing my experience in HFT has taught me is that technical ability is only loosely correlated with profitability. So I wouldn't conflate Renaissance's success with their hiring practices.

Message me. I'm looking for other finance refugees to do tech things with.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

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