Live data from Hacker News

We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

danluu.com

1–10 of 653 posts

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#3
> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same.

This is a great quote and an interesting point. I don't know what it's like in the US but in the UK it's not unexpected to wear quite formal clothes to an interview, even if the position is at a very relaxed company.

I don't think I would judge someone for what they wore in an interview, but I fear I might if they continued to wear something overly formal at work.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#4
post #3

> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

You haven't met Raymond Chen.

https://channel9.msdn.com/Shows/Defrag-Tools/Defrag-Tools-14...

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#5
post #3

> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

Also in the UK, and I would definitely not be surprised to see candidates show up with suits at places where that’s obviously not required. No one cares. “Pedigree” that’s another question.

I did show up in a tailored three-piece suit with a tie and pocket for my interview at Deliveroo (a notorious streetwear influencer now). There was an eyebrow justifiably raised (by a guy in a t-shirt who, I learned afterwards, was the CEO) and I felt the need to explain that I had another interview for a very different company just after. That other interview went horribly and I got the job at Deliveroo! I’d still recommend showing up wearing biking gear.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#6
post #3

> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

I did a lot of interviewing at my last job and I used to ask agencies to tell people they could come along to interviews dressed casually - which seemed fair as I'd be dressed fairly casually. To my surprise a number of recruiters insisted that the people they send along came in suits and ties.

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#7
post #3

> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

> and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same.

Does this still happen?

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#8
post #3

> We like to think that we’re different from all those industries that judge people based on appearance, but we do the same thing, only instead of saying that people are a bad fit because they don’t wear ties, we say they’re a bad fit because they do, and instead of saying people aren’t smart enough because they don’t have the right pedigree… wait, that’s exactly the same. This is a great quote and an interesting poi…

"I fear I might if they continued to wear something overly formal at work"

Why would you be bothered about what someone wears at work - formal or informal?

Re: We only hire the best means we only hire the trendiest (2016)

#9
I disagree with this article, to some extent at least. Perhaps it's specific for trendy companies and startups. Most of which are just looking for the next shiny object, true.

However, when you look at companies that move the needle in different industries, companies that have repute, market share and profitability, they couldn't care less what is trending these days. They look for domain expertise and excellence.

I have friends who work at Renaissance, the hedge fund. The company couldn't care less about your grasp of the latest ML framework or Keros or whatever you were. As long as you know what you are doing and are exceptionally good at it.

Having worked, full time, at Microsoft, I'd say the same goes there and at Apple, Oracle, even Google for the most part. They don't care about what is trending, just prove your weight.

I think this conclusion was drawn from the companies that make the most noise but are actually not major players in industry. The same companies that are hot for a minute until they meet their eventual demise.

The most robust, relevant and profitable companies out there basically say, 'F* trends, show us your worth in salt'.

It's the hippie companies that ruin it all yet dictate social media conversation...for the 2 minutes their company is hot, then it dies.

Long live domain expertise and exceptionality.

Post reply on HN