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You should probably check your biases. (The vast majority of antifa are white, btw)
I know Antifa is mostly white. That doesn't change anything in my view, because prejudice based on skin color is racism, no matter the color of the person holding that prejudice.
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Your cognitive dissonance is simply astounding.
Huh? It's "astounding" to dislike groups that riot and attack people/property in the pursuit of political aims I disagree with? Is this some George W. Bush "you're either with us or against us" BS?
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I think either word could work
But somehow you don't consider being "anti-Islam" (read: anti-Muslim, because people with that set of prejudices is not going to be threading too thin) racist?
this is not really the case for islam or christianity; use of "racism" there is a typical "postmodernist race theorist" fallacy used to shut down discussion and avoid addressing arguments.
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I'm really torn on this. On the one hand, these are humans, not monsters; their views can be changed, perhaps, but not if we force them into hiding and radicalize them. On the other hand, giving them power and influence in public spaces, the ability to disrupt other people's discourse and lives at will, is not okay. I'm not sure there is one best solution. We need to give bigots a chance to change their views, and we…
> these are humans, not monsters Humans can become monsters. Nazism and fascism metastasize in open societies. If they have a forum, if they're allowed to congregate online or in real life, they self-radicalize. I'm extremely pro-free-speech, often to a fault -- but that doesn't apply to actual Nazis or other people who promote hate and violence. This is really toxic shit and can be impossible to control once it gets…
So you're an hypocrite.
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> these are humans, not monsters Humans can become monsters. Nazism and fascism metastasize in open societies. If they have a forum, if they're allowed to congregate online or in real life, they self-radicalize. I'm extremely pro-free-speech, often to a fault -- but that doesn't apply to actual Nazis or other people who promote hate and violence. This is really toxic shit and can be impossible to control once it gets…
> I'm extremely pro-free-speech, often to a fault -- but that doesn't apply to actual Nazis or other people who promote hate and violence. So you're an hypocrite.
If you believe in freedom.of speech you should seek to protect these minority voices that are being silenced by violence, you shouldn't be protecting people making death threats.
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> I'm extremely pro-free-speech, often to a fault -- but that doesn't apply to actual Nazis or other people who promote hate and violence. So you're an hypocrite.
Nazis seek to silence others through violence or threats of violence. If you believe in freedom.of speech you should seek to protect these minority voices that are being silenced by violence, you shouldn't be protecting people making death threats.
But the problem is saying that Nazis, without violence and threats of violence can silenced. And if you silenced people even before the threats, how can you say you're for the freedom of speech?