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Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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What do POS systems cost typically? For example, what does a standard credit card reader cost, and is there additional transaction fees ontop of what credit card companies charge?

Pricing is fairly opaque in general, likely due to the sales structure and cycle. Probably the closest competitor here is Clover, which Google Search found with a cost of $999 for the first device (apparently subsequent ones are $1249). There's an additional software and service fee ($39/mo first device, $25/mo additional devices). So, comparable.

This is just for the hardware and software though, actual payment processing requires a merchant account that charges fees. Everyone has to pay these. If you're small, there's programs like these that are designed to get you your first merchant account. If you're big, this is a negotiation process where different sales departments will try to match or beat your current rates.

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are POS units actually cheap? Seems to me like one of those areas where things are potentially way more expensive than it seems they should be.

Yes, a Casio cash register can be had for $99 to $250 new, and has scanner support. Credit/Debit won't be integrated, but at least you get a cash drawer and a receipt printer included in that price unlike Square's offering.

I'd be more curious about TCO including a Verifone terminal and the fees associated with that. Still hard to imagine it climbing up to $999, although there are probably some annual fees that Square instead built into transaction fees and the hardware price.

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are POS units actually cheap? Seems to me like one of those areas where things are potentially way more expensive than it seems they should be.

Yes, a Casio cash register can be had for $99 to $250 new, and has scanner support. Credit/Debit won't be integrated, but at least you get a cash drawer and a receipt printer included in that price unlike Square's offering.

Not having cash actually is a feature for some establishments. There's a bar in Berkeley that doesn't allow you to pay with cash, so they had no need for registers. We assumed the purpose was to prevent any incentive to rob the place (even by employees).

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

You think Square is the only part of the credit-card purchasing process that's a privacy nightmare?

Credit cards track your purchases. Square maybe makes it a bit more obvious that your purchase history is going up to the internet, but i'm not sure why you think other credit card processors aren't tracking you.

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

All payment processors do this- they just don’t make it so obvious

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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post #17

Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

Is that even legal?

US? Of course. EU? Subject to data protection, but still quite widespread.

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

If privacy is that important to you then just pay cash. Otherwise your credit card company, your bank, Facebook, Equifax, Google and the store itself among others are all tracking you as much as possible across purchases in the physical retail world and across all your web traffic. All of these datapoints are being cross-correlated in a billion different ways. "I'm not on Facebook" - oh yes you are. There's a shadow…

Absolutely. Every middleman in the chain is repackaging and selling your data.

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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post #17

Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

Is that even legal?

This happens regardless of whether you use a Square till or not: https://www.oracle.com/corporate/acquisitions/datalogix/inde...

Re: Square announces the Register, a $999 point-of-sale device for larger businesses

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Square is a privacy nightmare. They track your purchases across stores and tie your email to your credit card. The worst part is there is no "opt in" either. There is no privacy policy or terms of service that I agree to. My only option is to either pay in cash or not shop there.

Agreed. I was absolutely horrified the first time I got one of their receipt emails after buying a sandwich.
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