Indiana Purging Voters Using Software That’s 99% Inaccurate

Post by s73ver_ » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 7:00 PM UTC

danblick wrote: post #32

vkou wrote: post #20

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How exactly will you use this PII to perpetuate voter fraud? Show up at a polling station with fake ID or PII? Then at another polling station with another piece of fake ID or PII? What's your plan for voting staff checking the records, and finding out that 'you' already cast a ballot at that station? This kind of fraud is incredibly risky, and does not scale (And is trivial to combat). Election fraud by the process…

Let's take as a starting point this list of methods: http://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/heritage-explains... (I realize that's from the Heritage Foundation - I'm not particularly conservative - it's just the first decent list I came across while Googling.) Let's take these 3: """ False registrations: Voting under fraudulent voter registrations that either use a phony name and a real or fake address or claim r…

Post by Bud » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 7:02 PM UTC

munk-a wrote: post #31

Bud wrote: post #4

This is a crime. The power to unregister voters must be forcibly taken away from states; especially red states, since they are the only ones abusing this power. It should require federal action, instead.

This is an action which legitimately needs to be done. I think the larger issue we need to fix is the partisan entrenchment that lets people justify this being done to further their own agendas. Using targeted disenfranchisement to further your own political goals is quite clearly illegal, we just need to start sending people to jail over it instead of excusing it because the ends justify the means.

Post by Bud » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 7:03 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #25

Bud wrote: post #4

This is a crime. The power to unregister voters must be forcibly taken away from states; especially red states, since they are the only ones abusing this power. It should require federal action, instead.

> It should require federal action Shooting from the hip is a good way to trash a democracy. What you're proposing would allow a single, centralized actor to purge voters from the rolls. De-centralised systems will always have longer, more-idiotic tails. That's the tradeoff for their robust central tendencies.

Post by s73ver_ » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 7:06 PM UTC

wang_li wrote: post #33

ch4s3 wrote: post #10

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That's complete nonsense. The Supreme Court and several district courts have found states like North Carolina to be actively using purges and registration changes for the purpose of disenfranchising voters. Furthermore, if you want to protect the integrity of the vote, registration is the last logical place to start, as in person fraud is vanishingly rare. Only 2 people were charged with doing so in this past electio…

It doesn't get charged often because there are parties that fight tooth and nail to prevent the implementation of processes that would allow the detection of ineligible voters voting. It is shown in every election cycle that there are cases of voters voting who should not be because of their citizenship or felon status or voting in multiple districts. When you say that only 2 have been charged, why is that relevant?…

Post by trowawee » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 7:08 PM UTC

mtgx wrote: post #46

alistproducer2 wrote: post #26

Anyone with half a brain knows that these purges are designed to advantage a side not protect the system. I read an article the other day that stated that some America's voting system had essentially been compromised on many levels. It made me think about why so many of our polls have, in the last few years, been so off the mark. Now I'm beginning to think it's not because the polling models suddenly don't work. It i…

I agree. The media seems to mainly focus on voter purging and whatnot when it tends to favor the GOP, and not looking much at the other side. But it's happening with Democrats, too. The elites must know about how vulnerable these systems really are, and they're using it to their advantage. http://www.wnyc.org/story/city-board-elections-admits-it-bro...