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Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
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Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I saw way more harm in the engineer using the phone to pay for lunch at the cafeteria and mention that he worked on that feature. Was that cashier under the same NDA? Now he's seen it and can leak the design to the world and nobody would know. Or were there dozens of these prototypes running around the Apple campus and everyone (including contractors and guests) knows to look the other way?
You can be pretty damn sure janitors, cafeteria workers, etc sign NDAs before starting on Apple/Microsoft/etc
But isn't Caffe Macs considered a public area (guests and family visiting for meals, etc)?
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#63From the article, "I had no idea this was a violation" Welp, if you weren't getting fired for showing off the iPhone X before it ships without permission you should be fired for being at Apple for four years and not realizing this might be a problem. I can't even take this as genuine. I seriously wonder if they were already half out the door for other reasons.
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Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#64"I had no idea this was a violation" Somehow hard to believe.
Is it hard to believe?
The article mentions that the phone had been announced and the press already had access to it. A teenager is unlikely to think much about the ship date and unlikely to think about the press having restricted access at all.
The ball really falls into the father's court. Not only is he the one covered by the NDA, he also has more life experience and more experience with Apple to realize that he should not have shown his daughter the phone (nevermind let her film it).
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#65"I had no idea this was a violation" Somehow hard to believe.
Is it hard to believe? The article mentions that the phone had been announced and the press already had access to it. A teenager is unlikely to think much about the ship date and unlikely to think about the press having restricted access at all. The ball really falls into the father's court. Not only is he the one covered by the NDA, he also has more life experience and more experience with Apple to realize that he s…
AND on Apple property, too!
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#66Sad, Apple has indeed lost it's way. Old Apple would have capitalized on any press. Tim Cook is the Steve Balmer of Apple; right now they're still making money off of legacy. Jobs demanded quality and usefulness, not silly touchbars, half-witted protocol implementations, and removing of essential ports (ethernet, headphone jacks, etc). The market is ripe for another commercially supported Unix-based hardware/software…
You think Jobs would've been cool with this? What are you smoking?
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#67If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…
>If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well.
Okay, but testing consumer products in the real world is an extremely common occurrence, and you have to walk a fine line between inadequate testing and product disclosure. Its fine to propose idealistic solutions, but without providing means of actually implementing those proposals, it doesn't help anyone. Keeping radio devices confined on premises would have severely impacted their testing.
>As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by the company and kids will do whatever they want to in today's connected world.
That's not the same as giving your kid an unreleased product. The adult is still responsible for _their_ actions.
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
What did you expect? You have the choice of refusing to sign and thereby working somewhere else.
Except you don't. No matter where you work, the situation is the same. Your options are to smile and sign, or start your own company. And the latter isn't practical for most of us.
Without sounding like I'm judging here, but can you explain why starting your own company, "isn't practical for most of us"?
Seems to me the overwhelming majority of people are free to make the choice to start their own company. Or, am I missing something...?
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#69If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…
> In the video, which has since been deleted, Peterson shops at Santana Row before meeting her father, Ken Bauer, for pizza at an Apple cafeteria in Cupertino. Bauer pays for their meals with an unreleased iPhone X, telling the cashier that he worked on the phone’s wireless payments feature. This all happened on Apple's campus, mentioned in the second paragraph. Maybe read the article before commenting?
Here’s the video apparently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBeD8E2xxck
Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral
#70If Apple does not want their devices to be used as intended until an embargo date has passed they should keep them on premises. Once the device is out of the gates the secret is out as well. NDA's are very effective when you are talking about documents and adults. As soon as you're talking about devices and/or kids NDA's are ineffective because anybody that spots the device can post a picture without any recourse by…
The video was taken on Apple's new campus....
No it wasn’t. It was on the old 1 Infinite Loop campus. The father mentioned they were moving in December to the new campus.