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Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

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Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#11

It's pretty strange that someone lost their livelihood solely because they didn't bow to authority. (As opposed to a practical reason, like "what he did mattered.")

It seems harmless at first, but...

In the video, we can see an email on his phone marked "restricted" with a project code name and some other details. That could potentially be harmful. His daugher is probably not allowed to see that, let alone post it on youtube.

Not to mention, they want to tightly control the message prior to the pre-order sale... they don't want any unfinished software on the device changing people's opinion and affecting pre-orders unnecessarily.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#12

How a tech company can dictate a lifestyle, and make you lose your job for it, is beyond me. I guess you deserve the consequences if you subscribe to that lifestyle contract.

Yes, it's beyond me how a company can have rules about what you're allowed to do on company property. /s

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#13

How a tech company can dictate a lifestyle, and make you lose your job for it, is beyond me. I guess you deserve the consequences if you subscribe to that lifestyle contract.

Look, he violated his employer's NDA and it wasn't a mistake. What do you expect?

Much worse violations have happened in the past at Apple, and were unintentional. Like the firmware leak that leaked everything about this year's iPhones. As far as I know, nobody was fired for that, because it was a mistake.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#14

It's pretty strange that someone lost their livelihood solely because they didn't bow to authority. (As opposed to a practical reason, like "what he did mattered.")

Well at least this was for a reason.

Remember that one guy they fired for a bad decorated apartment? You got life a representative lifestyle- so designer cloths, designer furniture- else apple does not want to associated with you. IKEA is very very close to crossing a line there.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#15

It's pretty strange that someone lost their livelihood solely because they didn't bow to authority. (As opposed to a practical reason, like "what he did mattered.")

It does matter. I work in an industry where any leaks of a new product can make our share price drop or go up - so an employee being careless about what they share online does actually affect the company a lot. I would absolutely be fired if I leaked what product I am working on and I don't see anything wrong with that, it's not about bowing to authority.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#16

How a tech company can dictate a lifestyle, and make you lose your job for it, is beyond me. I guess you deserve the consequences if you subscribe to that lifestyle contract.

If Apple says no filming on campus of an unreleased phone and you do anyway and that phone also happens to have QR codes of unreleased products, HOW is this in anyway related to whatever your comment might mean?

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#17
Feels like someone has an agenda, this is the 10th time I've heard this story and it has exactly the same information.

Father told/showed daughter prototype phone in breach of an NDA that I know he signed if he had access to that hardware. Daughter felt really proud of superstar daddy and took to the internet to show off.

Apple has three recourses,

1) Sue the employee to the fullest extent covered under the NDA. My employer can hold me personally liable for any loss of revenue and it wouldn't be hard to claim damage on this.

2) Ignore the incident, set a precedent that leaks are ok. Or internally lambast the employee which is akin to bullying in some eyes.

3) Terminate the employee, allow a clean break and for the employee to persue other jobs with newly accrued information (IE; that when your NDA says "NOBODY (inc. Family) are to be told [...] that it generally means it.

This is a non-story. Yes, it's sad. But it's wholly self-inflicted and I think Apple took the least destructive path on this.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#18

It's pretty strange that someone lost their livelihood solely because they didn't bow to authority. (As opposed to a practical reason, like "what he did mattered.")

A man was let go for allowing a family member to record video of an unreleased device on company property. In onboarding materials, it is extremely clear that this sort of thing will get you fired.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#19
From the article, "I had no idea this was a violation"

Welp, if you weren't getting fired for showing off the iPhone X before it ships without permission you should be fired for being at Apple for four years and not realizing this might be a problem.

I can't even take this as genuine. I seriously wonder if they were already half out the door for other reasons.

Re: Apple fires engineer after his daughter’s iPhone X video goes viral

#20
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are someone else’s employee then you are already “bowing to authority” or as I put it working for someone else. NDAs are serious. If I violated a NDA I would likely be taken to court as well as fired.

Yes. And that's my point: We have no autonomy to decide whether something matters. You don't get to choose. Unless, of course, you're in a position of power. Then you do. That kind of cheapens the idea that we're all working to build something great. Situations like this reveal what we're really working for.

> We have no autonomy to decide whether something matters. You don't get to choose.

The choice was made when he signed the NDA. That's literally what signing it means.

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