Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

Post by jackmott » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 12:33 PM UTC

randomThoughts9 wrote: post #40

Well, a fun fact: there is nothing funny about that list :). It should have been called "Some facts about Rust's growing popularity". Now, my predicament: I love Rust's type system and tooling, but it's really hard to justify to myself the pain of writing correct Rust code (borrowing, lifetimes, etc.) when I know I can get almost the same effect by using a GC language + immutable messages. And I don't need that last…

Post by code_duck » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 12:37 PM UTC

Someone wrote: post #35

code_duck wrote: post #33

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Rust?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rust_(fungus)

Post by pjmlp » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 12:46 PM UTC

randomThoughts9 wrote: post #80

Mouse47 wrote: post #70

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>Rusts solution is a more general solution to the "general resource problem" It's true. Ever since I got familiar with the ownership concept, I've taken to writing C# IDisposables with disposable member variables like this: public MyObject(){ this.myResource = new DisposableResource(); this.ownsMyResource = true; } public MyObject(DisposableResource resourceToUseThatIDontOwn){ this.myResource = resourceToUseThatIDont…

I agree and I appreciate what they are trying to do. But just as a counter-argument, look how a simple lock looks like in Rust [1]: fn main() { let counter = Arc::new(Mutex::new(0)); let mut handles = vec![]; for _ in 0..10 { let counter = counter.clone(); let handle = thread::spawn(move || { let mut num = counter.lock().unwrap(); *num += 1; }); handles.push(handle); } //... } [1] https://doc.rust-lang.org/book/secon…

    withLock(counter, (num) => {
       return num + 1;
    });

    withLock(counter, (ref num) => {
       num++;
    });

Post by reificator » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 12:57 PM UTC

ghthor wrote: post #66

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Please please please can we stop with the Rustacean/Gopher/etc crap? You don't need a cutesy label to identify that you use a tool. I enjoy Doctor Who (though it's been getting worse for the last 5 or so years) but I do NOT want to be called a Whovian. What's the first image that pops into your head when I say "Trekkie"? It's probably not someone with good health and hygiene, is it?

Check your hangups at the door man. I love being a gopher and a rustacean. I like being cute and having a cute name for myself and fellow community members. It's attitudes like this that created the massive gender divide in CS and it needs to end.

Post by reificator » Mon, Oct 30, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #88

reificator wrote: post #37

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Please please please can we stop with the Rustacean/Gopher/etc crap? You don't need a cutesy label to identify that you use a tool. I enjoy Doctor Who (though it's been getting worse for the last 5 or so years) but I do NOT want to be called a Whovian. What's the first image that pops into your head when I say "Trekkie"? It's probably not someone with good health and hygiene, is it?

It's a common marketing tool nowadays. Many popular vloggers and DJ's who have made a name for themselves through social media do it too. They also use other shibboleths to foster an 'in-group' vs 'out-group' feeling, like hand signals, or just specific phrases used for signing off, or referring to themselves or other groups. I guess it appeals to some fundamental desire to 'belong'. Personally I think it's quite cre…