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Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #18
DiabloD3 wrote: post #4

Best fact: Rust users are apparently called Rustaceans. I did not know this, and have never seen this wonderful term before.

I love my Python but "Pythonista" makes me think I'm selling beverages with funny names for their sizes. I love the demonym for Rust!

"Pythonista" wins hands-down over "Rustacean" outside of English-speaking groups.

How do I even properly pronounce it? "Rah-stah-kyan", "Rah-stah-see-an", "Rah-stah-seen"? Complete non-starter if you can't talk about it.

I'll keep my "Pythonista" business cards - this rolls off the tongue easily and ignites conversations with non-techies.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by staticelf »

reificator wrote: post #37
DiabloD3 wrote: post #4

Best fact: Rust users are apparently called Rustaceans. I did not know this, and have never seen this wonderful term before.

Please please please can we stop with the Rustacean/Gopher/etc crap? You don't need a cutesy label to identify that you use a tool. I enjoy Doctor Who (though it's been getting worse for the last 5 or so years) but I do NOT want to be called a Whovian. What's the first image that pops into your head when I say "Trekkie"? It's probably not someone with good health and hygiene, is it?

People like to label shit and themselves. No reason to fight it.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by k__ »

sidlls wrote: post #30
harry8 wrote: post #28

You have to take all this with a mountain of salt. Boosterism is the norm in our space, sadly. If one devotes time to learning a technology it is personally advantageous if that technology takes off. Hence you get this kind of "My programming language and community are already wonderfully perfect and kick more goals than there are nets to kick into" stuff. And the worse, yet related utter rubbish we see all the time.…

It's what happens when people identify intellectual ability (or other positive attribute) with tool choice, and also wish to identify themselves as having that attribute.

Most people identify intellectual ability with opinions.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by pjmlp »

MichaelMoser123 wrote: post #22
soared wrote: post #2

> Now over 20% of Rust devs use it at work. This one jumped out at me. I'd be curious how this compares to other languages. (I know nothing about rust besides that I see it on hn all the time, impressive list though!)

I think that once upon a time as c++ was relatively new, it got a faster adoption in the corporate world. There are still very few job offerings that mention rust. I hope that will get better at some point.

C++ was helped by the adoption of C compiler vendors.

So we got two compilers in the box.

Plus having almost copy-paste compatibility with C, meant we could enjoy higher productivity with a more safer language, and leave the other unsafer one on the drawer.

Of course, nowadays we are paying the price of the copy-paste compatibility that helped the language gaining adoption in first place.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by currymj »

code_duck wrote: post #32
Waterluvian wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my Python but "Pythonista" makes me think I'm selling beverages with funny names for their sizes. I love the demonym for Rust!

Pythonista makes me think of a leftist guerilla in a jungle with a beret and a machine gun.

This is fairly accurate bc they have a Chairman-for-life, and a schism between two groups, one of which denounces the other as revisionist.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by currymj »

rhn_mk1 wrote: post #41
Waterluvian wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love my Python but "Pythonista" makes me think I'm selling beverages with funny names for their sizes. I love the demonym for Rust!

"Pythonista" wins hands-down over "Rustacean" outside of English-speaking groups. How do I even properly pronounce it? "Rah-stah-kyan", "Rah-stah-see-an", "Rah-stah-seen"? Complete non-starter if you can't talk about it. I'll keep my "Pythonista" business cards - this rolls off the tongue easily and ignites conversations with non-techies.

It's supposed to be "crustacean" without the "c". I'm not sure how well known the word crustacean is among ESL speakers though.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by cies »

randomThoughts9 wrote: post #40

Well, a fun fact: there is nothing funny about that list :). It should have been called "Some facts about Rust's growing popularity". Now, my predicament: I love Rust's type system and tooling, but it's really hard to justify to myself the pain of writing correct Rust code (borrowing, lifetimes, etc.) when I know I can get almost the same effect by using a GC language + immutable messages. And I don't need that last…

> [...] but it's really hard to justify to myself the pain of writing correct Rust code (borrowing, lifetimes, etc.) when I know I can get almost the same effect by using a GC language + immutable messages.

> And I don't need that last drop of performance either.

You probably write more highlevel code? Rust is --as the name implies-- most suited for close-to-the-metal code. This is often where that "last drop of performance" counts.

Re: Fun facts about Rust's growing popularity

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Post by masklinn »

randomThoughts9 wrote: post #40

Well, a fun fact: there is nothing funny about that list :). It should have been called "Some facts about Rust's growing popularity". Now, my predicament: I love Rust's type system and tooling, but it's really hard to justify to myself the pain of writing correct Rust code (borrowing, lifetimes, etc.) when I know I can get almost the same effect by using a GC language + immutable messages. And I don't need that last…

> So if you just want a native language with a good type system and a growing ecosystem, where do you go? Still Rust or something else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt0OQb1DBko

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