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Re: Kindle is OK

#31

I don't think it's a zero sum game. It's not either/or. For most it's both. You will have a smart (brilliant) phone and if you read a lot, a dedicated reader. The 2 form factors just don't overlap enough to do both well.

At this point the Kindle is so cheap that if I actually commit to buying any quantity of Kindle books, I might try one.

Re: Kindle is OK

#32

>Further, I have a backlog of unread books I bought on Amazon, and I don't see why I should replace them (or if I can) using Apple's store. To clear that piece of FUD - there's a Kindle app in the Apple app store which lets you read all your Kindle books on your iPad. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/kindle/id302584613?mt=8

If you read the comments Dave is busy shouting at people who make that point. Apparently there's some sort of additional reason why the Kindle hardware is staying around.

A sidenote, but when is Dave not shouting at the people who comment on his blog? He should really disable comments entirely, since they only bring out the worst in him.

Edit: As further proof, see his latest post today - http://scripting.com/stories/2010/07/29/doYouThinkBeforeYouC...

Re: Kindle is OK

#33
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I bought a Kindle recently even though I have an iPad. I enjoy the Kindle far more. I also don't mind taking it with me on the train because if something happens to it then I didn't just lose something super expensive-just fairly expensive. It's also nice that I don't get distracted playing "Plants vs. Zombies" or "We Rule" on it when I intend to be reading.

I find it fascinating that people these days are willing to pay (a premium) for less features or less choice. It's counterintuitive, but if you look at e.g. Leica's exploding sales, or Macs, or indeed bare-featured Kindles, there's a pattern. In a perfect world (or, at least, one with perfectly consistent people) less features could never be worth more. People would do what they want and whether the device offers mor…

Well, it's more the difference between a swiss army knife / leatherman and a Wusthof chef's knife. Yes, the former have a ton of more features but if I'm mainly going to cook, and I cook a lot, the leatherman's or the swiss army knife's blade is going to be an annoyance (even though it's great for occasional use). Obviously, I'll choose the specialized device.

That's basically the advice I give to my friends who ask me about the Kindle. If you read a lot, it's a great investment but if you don't read much, you'll be wasting your money.

Re: Kindle is OK

#34
I agree with Dave on pretty much all of this, except for one sort of off-topic point: though speech is protected by the First Amendment, Apple's behavior towards other parties is irrelevant as far as 1A protections go. The 1A doesn't apply unless there is a government actor involved... just sayin'.

Re: Kindle is OK

#35
post #27

I bought a Kindle recently even though I have an iPad. I enjoy the Kindle far more. I also don't mind taking it with me on the train because if something happens to it then I didn't just lose something super expensive-just fairly expensive. It's also nice that I don't get distracted playing "Plants vs. Zombies" or "We Rule" on it when I intend to be reading.

I find it fascinating that people these days are willing to pay (a premium) for less features or less choice. It's counterintuitive, but if you look at e.g. Leica's exploding sales, or Macs, or indeed bare-featured Kindles, there's a pattern. In a perfect world (or, at least, one with perfectly consistent people) less features could never be worth more. People would do what they want and whether the device offers mor…

But in all your example it's not simply less features, ie they are not a pure subset feature-wise of some other product. The Leica M9 for example may have many less features than a Nikon D3, but it also has a couple of things that no other camera on the market has. Macs have the killer feature that they can easily run OS X. The Kindle is the only device which both lets you both use an e-ink screen and buy and read kindle books.

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#36
Not a real complaint, but I got my DX too soon, had to pay custom charges, and the model I got is US-only. I figured they'd never have all-Web access in the UK, as my previous Kindle 2 only did Wikipedia. Then they fixed it in the 2.5 upgrade, and I can't go webbing on this.

My silly fault for rushing in, but I figure 5 years' reading will pay off that £300 investment, and it's great for Japanese comic books!

Re: Kindle is OK

#37
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Three reasons why I personally think the Kindle is superior to the iPad as a reading device: 1) It's lighter and smaller and thus easier on your hands to hold it. My hands begin to hurt after holding the iPad for more than two hours. Reading is something I can do for hours without interruption. 2) I thought that an advantage of the ipad would be that I can read with the lights already out. I was wrong - staring at th…

Are you reading black-on-white or white-on-black?

Google recently updated the Android maps application so everything is white during the day, which really annoys me. black-on-white is kind of obnoxious and wastes battery unless you're in full sunlight. But of course it's shinier, and shiny always beats functional...

Re: Kindle is OK

#38

Very seriously considering a Kindle, but all my eBooks are non-DRM ePUBs. I know Amazon has a feature to get your existing files on the Kindle, but has anyone tried to import ePUBs? Do they transfer 1:1 to Amazon's format?

PDF: Fine

HTML: Rename file to .txt and it lets you read the HTML page like a text file. But it's not perfect and sometimes complains.

Re: Kindle is OK

#39
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The nook support ePUB.

Thanks, I've been trying to decide between Kindle and Nook on the assumption that I'll mostly read Project Gutenberg books anyway. So you're saying that Nook would be better for me?

Thanks to http://manybooks.net/, either would work perfectly well for texts in the public domain.

Re: Kindle is OK

#40
I concur with Dave's points. I'm very happy with my Kindle DX. I love to read and I love that it is focused so well on that activity.
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