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A 45 minute brisk walk to and from work every day is excessive. By no means is 7.5 hrs of walking every week a commute I would call "just walking".
That's a very ordinary amount of walking for many people.
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Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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> kind of orthogonal and non-scalable to the problem of the Bay Area housing crisis. The problem can be attacked from two angles. Either ramp up housing development to take care of the population influx, or slow down the population influx to match the rate of housing development. Obviously, the people of the area have a vested interest in keeping the area attractive; but for the rest of us, I think it's important to…
> lies I started telling myself about why I had to stay. care to elaborate?
He mentioned how awful the commute was and that he needed a car despite being in the city. For me, enabling a carless lifestyle is an important feature of a city.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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> Surely the only difference is you won't meet the people at work, but you probably wouldn't date them anyway would you. Traditionally, work has been a very common place to meet future spouses. I believe the rate has dropped in recent decades, but I would be surprised if it was so low as to be inconsequential, especially when considering something as important as many people view this.
According to 'Searching for a Mate: The Rise of the Internet as a Social Intermediary' (2010) http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0003122412448050 , around 10% of (hetero) couples met at work as of 2010, down from a peak of 20% in 1990. It is the fourth most common method behind friends, bars, and online. Just the graph: https://cdn.technologyreview.com/i/images/internet-dating.pn...
There's some overlap, as one can be friends with coworkers and go to bars with them.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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No, people who like the Central Valley should definitely feel free to go live there! I’m just saying I wouldn’t choose to. My original phrasing (“can’t imagine”) was probably a bit hyperbolic.
But no one is suggesting you do so. So, I am still baffled by this entire exchange. Probably best to drop it though.
He replied in the same way one might at a party -- you say something, then he tries to relate to it. In this case, he was explaining why he can't relate.
Seemed like a natural exchange to me.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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But no one is suggesting you do so. So, I am still baffled by this entire exchange. Probably best to drop it though.
He replied in the same way one might at a party -- you say something, then he tries to relate to it. In this case, he was explaining why he can't relate. Seemed like a natural exchange to me.
Well, I don't get out much, so I don't have those party chit chat experiences. Maybe that's the problem.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
#246I used to live in the dead center of the city, in the Ashbury Heights neighborhood. It took me literally 1 hour to get to work, down town taking muni (fastest time recorded is 40 minutes without any delays and essentially running the "last mile"). This was the longest commute of my life, and I lived 3 miles from work. It would take me just a little more time to walk there. Biking was faster, but more dangerous -- I g…
That's great, but it seems kind of orthogonal and non-scalable to the problem of the Bay Area housing crisis. Are you proposing that everyone in SF move to places like the Central Valley (driving up price) and start driving around cars (increasing traffic and pollution)? What about folks who don't have the luxury of jobs where they can work remotely?
The alternative is America getting its act together and change their cities into Singapore/Tokyo/Hong Kong. Good luck waiting for that.
Infrastructure is not something the average citizen seems to give a fig about.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
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I don't agree that crappy climate is a poor reason to avoid a move. Ideally it's not your only reason, but the climate in California is definitely a major selling point for just about everyone (myself included) who have come here from the east coast and the primary reason I won't go back. And the surrounding outdoors (if you're into that) is much better in SF than NYC, and really any city I know of in the US. A 30-45…
Yes I understand that and the outdoors activities have no appeal to me. I’ve lived in Michigan, Texas, Washington, California. The weather in California is dramatically better than the others, but on balance I would much rather give up 3+ hrs of commuting a day for 1hr where some of that is in a humid subway station. If you haven’t lived in the humid areas of Texas, you don’t know that it’s much worse than NYC/Boston…
“Yeah, you say the 4-month-long Northeast summers are bad, but have you considered it would be a lot worse if you were living ankle-deep in a swamp?
“Yeah, you say the 6-month-long Northeast winters are bad, but have you considered that it would be a lot worse if you were living under a blizzard in far-northern prairie?
“Also, there are 2 nice months every year!”
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
He replied in the same way one might at a party -- you say something, then he tries to relate to it. In this case, he was explaining why he can't relate. Seemed like a natural exchange to me.
Well, I don't get out much, so I don't have those party chit chat experiences. Maybe that's the problem.
Chit chat isn't just for parties. Meeting new people is often enjoyable, though more fun if they're agreeable instead of complaining.
Re: Saving San Francisco goes deeper than “build more housing”
#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, I don't get out much, so I don't have those party chit chat experiences. Maybe that's the problem.
Chit chat isn't just for parties. Meeting new people is often enjoyable, though more fun if they're agreeable instead of complaining.
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