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Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by Retr0spectrum »

jpl56 wrote: post #9

Pop-ins : here is what I do 1) I found here, on Hacker News, a nice "kill sticky" javascript function to put in my shortcuts 2) In Firefox, I gave it a shortcut keyword 3) In my AutoHotKey script, I assigned a key to "type the shortcut keyword in the address bar" to run it quickly 4) when a pop-in occurs, I reflexively press my kill key The script is javascript:(function()%7B(function%20()%20%7Bvar%20i%2C%20elements%…

For those curious, this is what that script is doing:

    var i, elements = document.querySelectorAll('body *');
    for (i = 0; i

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by optimuspaul »

neom wrote: post #12
laurent123456 wrote: post #4

> Off-Topic: ... If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic. That would be nice but unfortunately in practice all the big news make their way to the top of HN, despite the fact that we've already read and heard about them from countless other sources. For example some of the top posts at the moment are: - Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain - New Zealand to ban foreigners from buying exist…

I do enjoy the HN comments perspectives on that stuff, though.

Honestly I go to hacker news for the comments. Hearing what people with similar interests to me think about a variety of topics is the value point for me. While having a somewhat curated list of things is nice, I like that it's maybe 5% things I'm interested in.

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by globeadue »

napa15 wrote: post #20

Are you not setting this up as a website? I was really hoping that this would turn out as an announcement to be an aggregator of an aggregator. Personally I dont understand either why Apple news and 'Why is X down' links dont get banned, these are the most obvious offenders. I was just about to make a list of posts on the top page that I personally wouldnt allow on a serious hackernews site and I stopped because it w…

so you want to ban those posts so you can have independence from stupid peoples news thus affording you 20% more time for tech articles on HN?

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by mikegerwitz »

minimaxir wrote: post #10

This is certainly a different take on Hacker News data. One of the thing I honestly dislike about comments on Hacker News is the advocation of the No True Scotsman-esque definition of "Hacker," where the only thing that matters is code and how it's used. In 2017, there's more to being a "Hacker" than just what low-level language is being used.

> In 2017, there's more to being a "Hacker" than just what low-level language is being used.

Always has been:

https://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by crznp »

pmoriarty wrote: post #15
garysieling wrote: post #7

That's an interesting project. I've been exploring this from a different angle, in the form of generated email newsletters ( https://www.findlectures.com/form?type=alert ). This uses the contents of the articles as well - I'm crawling links on programming subreddits. If you start from keywords you can use NLP (Word2vec) to measure how close articles are to your interests, so for instance "python, machine learning" gi…

Many years ago, back when Bayesian spam filtering was the hot new thing, I wrote up a little program that would classify articles in RSS feeds based on whether I found similar articles to be interesting or not interesting in the past. The ultimate goal was to save me time and effort in manually classifying them, as I and everyone else do when we scan through what we come across on a daily basis. Instead of manually d…

> First, that I'd have to manually scan through all the articles anyway, just in case the classifier made a mistake and maybe dumped an article I found intensely interesting in the uninteresting pile.

But I'm sure there are interesting articles that didn't get classified at all. It doesn't seem like the end of the world if you lose a little wheat with the chaff.

> overall what I found interesting or not changed from day to day

This seems like the problem. If you rated an article highly yesterday, it doesn't mean you want to read the same article again today. "Interesting" largely means "novel" and it is hard to find that by looking at similarities to what was new in the past.

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by kbenson »

napa15 wrote: post #20

Are you not setting this up as a website? I was really hoping that this would turn out as an announcement to be an aggregator of an aggregator. Personally I dont understand either why Apple news and 'Why is X down' links dont get banned, these are the most obvious offenders. I was just about to make a list of posts on the top page that I personally wouldnt allow on a serious hackernews site and I stopped because it w…

This somewhat makes sense if you use HN primarily and exclusively as an aggregator. I, and I'm sure many others, also make very heavy use of HN as a discussion board, and in that respect the submitted article is more like a loose word association used to start a discussion. If the submission is titled "Blue is better than purple." but has 300 point and 100 comments, I might take a look regardless of the stupid topic. For all I know, I might encounter some neuroscientists talking shop in the comments.

I also don't particularly care for more Apple news, or some political rant, but the discussions that sometimes follow these can be extremely interesting, and enough so that I would regret their disappearance.

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by CPLX »

grzm wrote: post #16

Impressive. The aspect I find of particular interest is dog piling. When I first heard about Prismatic[0] (RIP), I thought that would be a great way of discovering articles on topics I was in interested from sources I didn't already know. I ended up being overwhelmed by articles dog piling without a useful way to filter them for either (a) the original source of the news or (b) articles written on the topic from sour…

Perhaps off-topic but I was quite fond of Prismatic. Is there a good replacement out there you've found?

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by petercooper »

napa15 wrote: post #20

Are you not setting this up as a website? I was really hoping that this would turn out as an announcement to be an aggregator of an aggregator. Personally I dont understand either why Apple news and 'Why is X down' links dont get banned, these are the most obvious offenders. I was just about to make a list of posts on the top page that I personally wouldnt allow on a serious hackernews site and I stopped because it w…

You might like http://www.hackernewsletter.com/ - a guy whittles down the stories but on a weekly basis.

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by pmoriarty »

crznp wrote: post #25
pmoriarty wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago, back when Bayesian spam filtering was the hot new thing, I wrote up a little program that would classify articles in RSS feeds based on whether I found similar articles to be interesting or not interesting in the past. The ultimate goal was to save me time and effort in manually classifying them, as I and everyone else do when we scan through what we come across on a daily basis. Instead of manually d…

> First, that I'd have to manually scan through all the articles anyway, just in case the classifier made a mistake and maybe dumped an article I found intensely interesting in the uninteresting pile. But I'm sure there are interesting articles that didn't get classified at all. It doesn't seem like the end of the world if you lose a little wheat with the chaff. > overall what I found interesting or not changed from…

"It doesn't seem like the end of the world if you lose a little wheat with the chaff."

But is it losing a little or a lot? No way to tell without looking.

Even if it misses just a little, that little bit might have been crucial. If it misclassifies "NYC NUKED!!!" as uninteresting that's a single mistake that could make me oblivious to a hugely consequential event.

Of course, as a human classifier, I'll doubtlessly making my own mistakes, and maybe the AI classifier could help me out by pre-classifying articles for me, but it could also be misleading and will cost me in terms of spending time on training and maintenance. I'm not really sure what the right solution is here.

Re: Hacker News for Hackers

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Post by dmd »

petercooper wrote: post #28
napa15 wrote: post #20

Are you not setting this up as a website? I was really hoping that this would turn out as an announcement to be an aggregator of an aggregator. Personally I dont understand either why Apple news and 'Why is X down' links dont get banned, these are the most obvious offenders. I was just about to make a list of posts on the top page that I personally wouldnt allow on a serious hackernews site and I stopped because it w…

You might like http://www.hackernewsletter.com/ - a guy whittles down the stories but on a weekly basis.

http://n-gate.com/ is better
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