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Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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A typical case of overblown 'user failure', not Android security model failure. If a wallpaper app wants internet access and you allow it you really only have yourself to blame. Wallpaper, cursors packages, screen savers and other dumb 'customisation' gadgets have been malware vectors on the windows platform for about 15 years now, why would phone platforms be any different ?

Because this wasn't some random APK downloaded directly from the internet and thrown onto a phone after the 'APKs from the internet might harm your security' message. It was uploaded to Android Market and provided by Google, who as an arbiter of content, should realize that 'collect phone data' isn't an appropriate permission for a wallpaper.

So, Google has a responsibility to check each and every app for malicious intent by the uploader?

I really think that goes one step too far, that's exactly what apple does with their market place and I think that is a big part of the problem.

The ultimate responsibility of what you run on your computers lies with you, not with some entity providing you with a convenient way to get at a catalogue of stuff.

This application seems to be malicious, and it seems that the security model is not broken, after all it asks for the permissions very explicitly.

Now if only people would read those warnings and think for a bit before clicking 'ok'.

This is analogous to people receiving an email that instructs them to open a malware attachment.

It's simple, if you haven't inspected the source and it doesn't come from a source that has inspected the code and that gives you a guarantee that you can trust the stuff you download then you can not trust it.

Pushing the responsibility to Google is utterly unfair, they could never in a lifetime review the source code of every application that every android app developer throws out there.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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so what were the security permissions requested by this app at the time of installation? i have to imagine that if it was taking web browsing history that it would have needed more permissions than just "uses network data". android's fine-grained security permissions, where the author has to explicitly request each type (network use, prevent the screen from turning off, etc.) and the user is shown the list of permiss…

Again since the article doesn't mention which app was malicious it's hard to say but when I looked up the wallpaper apps developed by "jackeey,wallpaper" I see the apps requiring the following permissions: android.permission.ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE android.permission.INTERNET android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE android.permission.SET_WALLPAPER android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_S…

I must admit I didn't know that READ_PHONE_STATE includes browsing history. But I don't know what is the message shown to the user.

I have decided to not install apps that ask for too much several times.

Maybe another way to categorize the security rights is needed.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe on-demand permission requests would be better for many of those things, like apple ios does when an app requests your location. if i did something in google maps and it popped up a dialog asking for access to my call logs, i would certainly deny it, but i just did that update this morning and didn't even notice anything about it accessing my call logs.

> maybe on-demand permission requests would be better for many of those things, like apple ios does when an app requests your location. Wouldn't change much, 95% of users would still go WANNA USE APPLICATION, DISMISS MEAN BOX NOW

Cancel or allow?

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because this wasn't some random APK downloaded directly from the internet and thrown onto a phone after the 'APKs from the internet might harm your security' message. It was uploaded to Android Market and provided by Google, who as an arbiter of content, should realize that 'collect phone data' isn't an appropriate permission for a wallpaper.

So, Google has a responsibility to check each and every app for malicious intent by the uploader? I really think that goes one step too far, that's exactly what apple does with their market place and I think that is a big part of the problem. The ultimate responsibility of what you run on your computers lies with you, not with some entity providing you with a convenient way to get at a catalogue of stuff. This applic…

The tricky part for Google is they have pulled apps in the past so they're not entirely absolving themselves of responsibility for the Market.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Google has a responsibility to check each and every app for malicious intent by the uploader? I really think that goes one step too far, that's exactly what apple does with their market place and I think that is a big part of the problem. The ultimate responsibility of what you run on your computers lies with you, not with some entity providing you with a convenient way to get at a catalogue of stuff. This applic…

The tricky part for Google is they have pulled apps in the past so they're not entirely absolving themselves of responsibility for the Market.

As I'm sure they'll pull these when the right people at google are alerted to the problem.

But there will be more instances of this and I think that there simply ought to be a strict procedure to report malware so it can be responded to quickly rather than to lay the blame with google.

Then if such a procedure is in place and if google would consistently refuse to pull clearly identified malware you'd get in to a situation where you could lay some blame.

As it is I find it premature to do this, the Android application market is still developing as are the procedures to deal with applications that behave in 'unexpected' ways, the first competent user that installed this stuff should have had a way to provide feedback about the perceived security risks.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Google has a responsibility to check each and every app for malicious intent by the uploader? I really think that goes one step too far, that's exactly what apple does with their market place and I think that is a big part of the problem. The ultimate responsibility of what you run on your computers lies with you, not with some entity providing you with a convenient way to get at a catalogue of stuff. This applic…

The tricky part for Google is they have pulled apps in the past so they're not entirely absolving themselves of responsibility for the Market.

Tall people are not responsible for the things that are placed on high shelves just because they can reach them, but it is nice of them to help shorter people manipulate those things.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

#37
post #30

A typical case of overblown 'user failure', not Android security model failure. If a wallpaper app wants internet access and you allow it you really only have yourself to blame. Wallpaper, cursors packages, screen savers and other dumb 'customisation' gadgets have been malware vectors on the windows platform for about 15 years now, why would phone platforms be any different ?

Because this wasn't some random APK downloaded directly from the internet and thrown onto a phone after the 'APKs from the internet might harm your security' message. It was uploaded to Android Market and provided by Google, who as an arbiter of content, should realize that 'collect phone data' isn't an appropriate permission for a wallpaper.

I think Google is going out of their way not to be an arbiter of content. Just as on Youtube, they can grow faster and avoid legal headaches if they're not actively involved in the process.

As with many things in this area Apple has ridiculous mindshare so app store means control for many people, and that extends to imagining that Apple scrutinizes for security issues such as this (rather than censoring cartoons displaying alternate lifestyles).

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, Google has a responsibility to check each and every app for malicious intent by the uploader? I really think that goes one step too far, that's exactly what apple does with their market place and I think that is a big part of the problem. The ultimate responsibility of what you run on your computers lies with you, not with some entity providing you with a convenient way to get at a catalogue of stuff. This applic…

The tricky part for Google is they have pulled apps in the past so they're not entirely absolving themselves of responsibility for the Market.

They pull videos from Youtube too but you can't sue them for copyright violation when your TV show appears on there.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> maybe on-demand permission requests would be better for many of those things, like apple ios does when an app requests your location. Wouldn't change much, 95% of users would still go WANNA USE APPLICATION, DISMISS MEAN BOX NOW

Cancel or allow?

Cancel doesn't give them APPLICATION NOW, so it's just training them to reflex-click allow. It's a pavlovian reaction: Cancel -> no application; Allow -> application. If they launched the application, they probably want to see what's in it.

Re: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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Does Android have the ability to remotely kill applications like iOS? If so, perhaps they did that, so your app just disappeared if you had it. I was going to say "I can't imagine Google hushing up a security issue", but it does have the potential to get thrown in their face by Apple, "See, our walled garden is a good thing." (Not that I believe for an instant that Apple's approval would catch something like this.)

Yes, they do. I am pretty sure they have already removed one application. Lets wait to hear what google says before we all go crazy.

> Yes, they do. I am pretty sure they have already removed one application.

Two, I believe (though at the same time and by the same author)

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