Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

I guess Spain is hoping that power still comes from the barrel of a gun, judging by the violence employed on referendum day - but interested to see what the hell Spain thinks it can do if the whole of Catalonia goes on strike. I guess it's a battle of wills now. How much of the population of Catalonia really want independence, and what sacrifices are they willing to make to get it?

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by adekok » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:52 PM UTC

FTA The Catalan government said that of the 43% of potential voters who took part in the referendum, 90% were in favour of independence.

In a referendum where people who wanted to vote "no" didn't show up, because of fears of violence.

This just isn't a reflection of the will of the population.

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by ellius » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

Boothroid wrote: post #4

I guess Spain is hoping that power still comes from the barrel of a gun, judging by the violence employed on referendum day - but interested to see what the hell Spain thinks it can do if the whole of Catalonia goes on strike. I guess it's a battle of wills now. How much of the population of Catalonia really want independence, and what sacrifices are they willing to make to get it?

So I am not following this especially closely, but my understanding is that the vote represented a minority of the population and was done outside of legal channels. Your last question is really the most pertinent issue as far as what happens next—does the citizenry really care about this, and deeply? Or is it more of a power play drummed up by local political leaders?

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by ryanlol » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:53 PM UTC

davidpelayo wrote: post #2

Just in case this converges into normality (if it becomes), how do you think this could affect to investment of tech startups in Barcelona area?

Hard to predict. Not looking good on the short term, but who knows what the Catalan government might do to change that.

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by ryanlol » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:55 PM UTC

ellius wrote: post #6

Boothroid wrote: post #4

I guess Spain is hoping that power still comes from the barrel of a gun, judging by the violence employed on referendum day - but interested to see what the hell Spain thinks it can do if the whole of Catalonia goes on strike. I guess it's a battle of wills now. How much of the population of Catalonia really want independence, and what sacrifices are they willing to make to get it?

So I am not following this especially closely, but my understanding is that the vote represented a minority of the population and was done outside of legal channels. Your last question is really the most pertinent issue as far as what happens next—does the citizenry really care about this, and deeply? Or is it more of a power play drummed up by local political leaders?

At least the independistas seem to care about this issue deeply, there’s been much less interest on the other side.

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by thetxef » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:55 PM UTC

adekok wrote: post #5

FTA The Catalan government said that of the 43% of potential voters who took part in the referendum, 90% were in favour of independence. In a referendum where people who wanted to vote "no" didn't show up, because of fears of violence. This just isn't a reflection of the will of the population.

> people who wanted to vote "no" didn't show up, because of fears of violence.

that is just false. They did not show up because they did not want the referedum to take place.

Re: Catalan parliament declares independence from Spain

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Post by beojan » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 1:55 PM UTC

adekok wrote: post #5

FTA The Catalan government said that of the 43% of potential voters who took part in the referendum, 90% were in favour of independence. In a referendum where people who wanted to vote "no" didn't show up, because of fears of violence. This just isn't a reflection of the will of the population.

Can't use that excuse when it's the side supporting "no" perpetrating the violence.