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Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by onion2k » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 6:56 AM UTC

lstyls wrote: post #7

sharpercoder wrote: post #5

I saw a documentary which analyzed footage found around 2000 iirc (discovered old footage) of the murder. The conclusion was that due to the wound exit, the shooter could never have been Oswald. It convinced me. Who does the American public currently believe to be the shooter? Is there consensus for some theory?

> Who does the American public currently believe to be the shooter? What does this have to do with anything? Reality isn't a democracy. It's absolutely possible the shot came from Oswald. Tastelessness aside, try playing JFK Reloaded ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_Reloaded ). Claiming the ballistics don't make sense is as debunked as claiming jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

Reality isn't a democracy.

Most people are actually quite intelligent and generally rational. If a large number of people finding something unconvincing is very often an indication that it warrants further investigation. Sometimes it turns out that all those people are wrong, but also, sometimes it doesn't.

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by kirillseva » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:04 AM UTC

indubitable wrote: post #40

wallace_f wrote: post #2

Hypothetically, if a group of people was willing to go to all the trouble of breaking laws to assassinate a President, what's forcing them to be honorable in producing and releasing information implicating themselves? It seems any excitement is contingent on believing not just in the conspiracy, but also in extreme incompetence, no?

I would be surprised if the releases containing anything especially new, but the government most certainly maintains incriminating information on themselves. For instance we now know that the FBI discovered compromising information on MLK and tried to black mail him into suicide. [1] They also discovered his infidelity through surveillance and contacted his wife again trying to damage his character. This was all well…

Didn't know about MLK blackmail. Reminds me of what happened to Hemingway. [1] Sometimes when you have paranoia it doesn't mean that you're crazy.

[1] - https://stevehuff.net/2015/07/02/ernest-hemingways-justified...

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by NotSammyHagar » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:10 AM UTC

kelukelugames wrote: post #44

tigershark wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends from case to case, you can't generalise. Ask people in Hong Kong if they prefer to be part of China instead of a British colony for example.

A fairer comparison would be between autonomy vs British colony.

The fariest comparison is all 3: ruled by China, British colony, autonomy. Clearly they'd prefer to not be in China.

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:17 AM UTC

gravy wrote: post #3

Usually I'm opposed to "read these documents the way we tell you to" articles a la CNN but this was a case of judging a book by its cover on my part, with little mention of Trump. Kudos Politico.

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Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by ekianjo » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:18 AM UTC

> The single bullet theory, while almost certainly true, was ridiculed in the film, as was Specter, by name.

What about the Zapruder film?

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by blowski » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:27 AM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #65

> The single bullet theory, while almost certainly true, was ridiculed in the film, as was Specter, by name. What about the Zapruder film?

What about it? Genuine question, I don’t know what you mean.

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by minademian » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:36 AM UTC

Such a solid article. Refreshing to read this.

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by harryf » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:42 AM UTC

dayaz36 wrote: post #39

adventurer wrote: post #13

2,800 of the 3,100 documents have been released. April 26, 2018 is apparently the new date for the remainder of the documents to be reviewed by the President and potentially released.

Haven't they had several decades to review it?...

He wanted a chance to Tweet about it first ?

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by lostlogin » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:49 AM UTC

harryf wrote: post #68

dayaz36 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven't they had several decades to review it?...

He wanted a chance to Tweet about it first ?

I wonder how many of the documents Trump read?

Re: How to Read the JFK Assassination Files

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Post by gibberfish » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:51 AM UTC

irrational wrote: post #41

jwdunne wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a stretch to believe. I'm British too. We did something similar with India. We also allowed the Irish famine to happen too. History does say we were not a very kind empire - causing famine was not beyond us.

It wasn't just you. The other European colonization efforts likewise destroyed the lives of millions of people. I always get a chuckle when I see Europeans deriding the American Empire. Pot calling the kettle black much?

Except the overwhelming majority of Europeans alive today, including those in power, have come of age at a time when their country's colonial efforts were already a thing of the past, so it's hardly fair to throw them in with their parents' or grandparents' generation.