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There was the Australian Democrats. I’m still tempted to see if I can resurrect them.
They still run Senate candidates (in Victoria at least) but as independents because they lost party status. Not sure if they can be resurrected though - I think their good people all went to Labor and the Greens.
How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
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Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#102Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#103I truly fear the day the NBN comes to my area. I am currently with Telstra and fortunately have HFC, I get pretty reliable speeds between 112 and 115mbps, with ping of 9ms. I am a developer and I rely on my currently decent connection to make money, video call clients in other countries, transfer large files (to and fro) if speeds were to suffer resulting in the inability to communicate properly, it would be crushing…
Really? What's your up rate? I am with Telstra HFC and get 2Mbps on the upload on home plan. NBN gives 40Mbps.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#104Running FTTH to every home was always a pipe dream (excuse the pun). Some kind of technology mix was a necessary compromise however the balance is wrong - percentage of FTTH is way too low. My home town is literally (and inexplicably!), divided down the middle - one half with FTTH, the other FTTN.
Why do you say this?
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are going way too easy on the current government. "Stuffing around" - more like active sabotage. Their policy has been consistent in the NBN all the way through, and has defied all independent technical advice. It was a political solution that never made any technical sense.
I thought he was going too hard on Turnbull (current PM). What has he done that justifies your appraisal of his brief term? People seem to be forgetting about Abbott, who in my opinion did indeed fuck around with rubbish policy his entire term (helped into the grave by treasurer/idiot Joe Hockey).
The problem with Turnbull appears to be that either:
1) He has to balance his rather more radically right wing members of his party while keeping his further centre members happy else he loses his position. (Many peoples explanation).
or
2) He has significantly changed his opinions and position on many issues over the last 5 years.
And this is a problem because people cant really tell which it is.
Turnbull hasn't really changed many of the policies of his predecessor, he just wraps it up nicer and in a more statesman like fashion.
He was previously a more moderate right wing (by australian standards) but has since gone significantly more right wing.
Im not going into specifics because I don't want to go beyond the realms of the overall topic and end up talking about Gonski or something, but thats my take on why people are a bit bemused by Turnbull and not particularly forgiving despite his inheritance.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you are going way too easy on the current government. "Stuffing around" - more like active sabotage. Their policy has been consistent in the NBN all the way through, and has defied all independent technical advice. It was a political solution that never made any technical sense.
I thought he was going too hard on Turnbull (current PM). What has he done that justifies your appraisal of his brief term? People seem to be forgetting about Abbott, who in my opinion did indeed fuck around with rubbish policy his entire term (helped into the grave by treasurer/idiot Joe Hockey).
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
They still run Senate candidates (in Victoria at least) but as independents because they lost party status. Not sure if they can be resurrected though - I think their good people all went to Labor and the Greens.
Due to todays events the former Democrats leader (Andrew Bartlet) will probably be replacing Waters.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#108First common mistake: Yes, Australia is geographically huge. No, it is not sparce. it is a highly urbanized economy in terms of geographic concentration of the population. Therefore, the oft-quoted extreme expense "oh, its so much more expensive to do it in OZ compared to ..." is bullshit: its not. There are of course some very expensive locations to service, but thats a USO problem. Overall, the cost of deployment o…
I don't know what the acronym USO means. But I do know that the expensive locations are politically important because there is pressure for the government to build various things out in just those locations. They political lobbying arises precisely because those locations are so expensive that the locals wouldn't pay for it themselves.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#109I truly fear the day the NBN comes to my area. I am currently with Telstra and fortunately have HFC, I get pretty reliable speeds between 112 and 115mbps, with ping of 9ms. I am a developer and I rely on my currently decent connection to make money, video call clients in other countries, transfer large files (to and fro) if speeds were to suffer resulting in the inability to communicate properly, it would be crushing…
Really? What's your up rate? I am with Telstra HFC and get 2Mbps on the upload on home plan. NBN gives 40Mbps.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#110In reality Britain simply lacks serious termites (and is in general underequipped in terms of dangerous animals, if you use Australia as a baseline).
I think this article buries the sins of the Liberal party (though the whole problem cannot be laid at their feet). I still have hope she'll be right in the end.