How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
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#2In Australia, the Liberal party leadership is clever enough to design national computer communication networks. Wait.... no they're not even close to that clever. But it doesn't stop them anyway.
What we can be sure of it now that Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull have completely ruined our chance at having a world class NBN, they'll not do what is needed to actually make it world class.
It's really strange that politicians simply are not driven by making things awesome. They're driven by something else and it's certainly not the goal of getting to the best possible outcome for the people and the country.
So I have HFC coming into my home right now.... where is my symmetric 10Gbps connection?
https://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/industry/hfc-what-is-full-dupl...
I loathe politicians with the burning heat of a thousand supernovas.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#3I truly fear the day the NBN comes to my area. I am currently with Telstra and fortunately have HFC, I get pretty reliable speeds between 112 and 115mbps, with ping of 9ms. I am a developer and I rely on my currently decent connection to make money, video call clients in other countries, transfer large files (to and fro) if speeds were to suffer resulting in the inability to communicate properly, it would be crushing.
The fact that retailers are not purchasing enough bandwidth means you're buying a Ferrari with a broken engine that is being pulled by a single horse. My area is slated for NBN 2019, let's hope they do something about the bandwidth before then (apparently at an estimates hearing a solution was promised by Christmas this year). What a joke.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#4This article didn't mention what Australians are choosing to do when they have a range of speeds. According to the figures NBN released 80% of customers aren't even paying for the top speed they could. Similarly, this piece from Vox notes that fast internet just is not nearly as valuable as proponents claimed.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/only-17p...
https://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/10/17/13230500/gigabit-ne...
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#5I truly fear the day the NBN comes to my area. I am currently with Telstra and fortunately have HFC, I get pretty reliable speeds between 112 and 115mbps, with ping of 9ms. I am a developer and I rely on my currently decent connection to make money, video call clients in other countries, transfer large files (to and fro) if speeds were to suffer resulting in the inability to communicate properly, it would be crushing…
I believe you have 18 months after the NBN arrives before you are forced to switch.
The NBN has come to my area. I am on Telstra 100Mbps HFC and it has worked pretty much flawlessly for years.
I have heard from various people in the area how terrible the NBN is.
I'm not switching until as late as I possibly can.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#6In Australia, the Liberal party leadership is clever enough to design national computer communication networks. Wait.... no they're not even close to that clever. But it doesn't stop them anyway. What we can be sure of it now that Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull have completely ruined our chance at having a world class NBN, they'll not do what is needed to actually make it world class. It's really strange that polit…
Don't waste that anger. Vote left (Or at least be very careful with your preference flows) at the next election. And get everyone you can to start talking/pushing for a Royal Commission into this.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#7I truly fear the day the NBN comes to my area. I am currently with Telstra and fortunately have HFC, I get pretty reliable speeds between 112 and 115mbps, with ping of 9ms. I am a developer and I rely on my currently decent connection to make money, video call clients in other countries, transfer large files (to and fro) if speeds were to suffer resulting in the inability to communicate properly, it would be crushing…
When migrating from 56K modem to ADSL it was amazing. The same cannot be said from the migration from ADSL2+ to NBN Fiber to the home was nice, but wasn't WOW.
The whole NBN has turned into a complete joke. If they would of stuck to rolling out fiber everywhere it would solved everything. Nope we now have to have a hybrid of everything.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#8In Australia, the Liberal party leadership is clever enough to design national computer communication networks. Wait.... no they're not even close to that clever. But it doesn't stop them anyway. What we can be sure of it now that Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull have completely ruined our chance at having a world class NBN, they'll not do what is needed to actually make it world class. It's really strange that polit…
Don't waste that anger. Vote left (Or at least be very careful with your preference flows) at the next election. And get everyone you can to start talking/pushing for a Royal Commission into this.
I loathe all politicians including the left wing. I just loathe the right wing more.
None of them represent the citizens. They represent their own grasping self interest.
And I certainly don't agree with the far left who seem to have an anti corporate/anti capitalist whiff to them ... I'm a committed capitalist AND green and they is no political party aligned to that.
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#9In Australia, the Liberal party leadership is clever enough to design national computer communication networks. Wait.... no they're not even close to that clever. But it doesn't stop them anyway. What we can be sure of it now that Tony Abbott and Malcolm Turnbull have completely ruined our chance at having a world class NBN, they'll not do what is needed to actually make it world class. It's really strange that polit…
And that's not even covering the reason why the NBN was necessary in the first place. Howard's/Costello's (former Liberal PM and treasurer) privatisation of the essentially monopoly government-run communications provider without any separation of retail from wholesale or HFC network from telephony network.
It was the equivalent of pre-breakup AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Cox (and the only competition was Optus, probably equivalent in market share then to Charter now) all in one go without breaking up anything. Oh, and guess what, they're also in a 50%-50% joint venture with the only major Pay TV provider left, FOXTEL (so that's the equivalent of Dish and DirectTV on top of the above). And their partner in FOXTEL is Rupert Murdoch's Newscorp which also happens to own 70%, yes, 70% of daily newspaper circulation in the country. But in the light of that of course, the government has finally come to its senses and done something about media ownership regulations.
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And they actually did, but what they did was just overturning the rules to allow Newscorp to also buy more radio or FTA TV assets. Which included a recently bankrupt FTA TV network run in and owned in substantial part (essentially as much as legally allowed by regulation at the time) by a certain James Murdoch. How did it go bankrupt? Credit withheld, guess by who. Well, not entirely, it was him and a guy who also owns a affiliated regional FTA network who wanted to take over the lot.
But in the only bit of actual hilarity in this whole thing, CBS bought that FTA TV network in bankruptcy. Outbidding Newscorp. So at least things are on the up and up. They may still have a complete and total stranglehold and perverted national infrastructure in collusion with a political party they're so strongly biassed towards. But at least an eternally bankrupt (they went bankrupt in the late 80s too) TV network at a time when TV is headed for terminal decline has escaped the grasp. Yay us :|
Re: How Australia's $49B internet network came to be ridiculed
#10This article didn't mention what Australians are choosing to do when they have a range of speeds. According to the figures NBN released 80% of customers aren't even paying for the top speed they could. Similarly, this piece from Vox notes that fast internet just is not nearly as valuable as proponents claimed. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/technology/only-17p... https://www.vox.com/new-money/2016/10/17/132…
The default Telstra plan is 25/5. That is why most have that limit.
I have FTTN and won't pay above that because at peak netflix hours my 25/5 drops to 10/1. If i go higher, I can't break 35/8