the more rails3 the better. maybe my next class should be based on this book instead, let me know what you think.
The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
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Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#12On a side note, i'm teaching a ruby on rails class based on Agile Web Development with Rails (rail3 beta version) and all of my lecture videos, and slides along with course erata are online http://thinkbohemian.com the more rails3 the better. maybe my next class should be based on this book instead, let me know what you think.
By the way, you might want to be careful about using Agile Web Development with Rails when teaching a course. Its code license is quite restrictive, as you can see at http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/source_code:
Copyrights apply to this source code. You may use the source code in
your own projects, however the source code may not be used to create
training material, courses, books, articles, and the like. We make
no guarantees that this source code is fit for any purpose.
I generally think the PragProgs are awesome (I originally learned Rails from AWDwR and a Pragmatic Studio course), and it seems bizarre that they really might not want you to use their book in your course, but that seems like a reasonable interpretation of their license. (Caveat: IANAL.) On the other hand, all the source code in the Ruby on Rails Tutorial book is released under the MIT License (http://railstutorial.org/book#license), so you can do pretty much anything you want with it. (Technically, the Rails Tutorial source code is dual-licensed under the MIT License and the Beerware License—the latter of which invites you to buy me a beer if you're ever so inclined: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beerware. :-)Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#13On a side note, i'm teaching a ruby on rails class based on Agile Web Development with Rails (rail3 beta version) and all of my lecture videos, and slides along with course erata are online http://thinkbohemian.com the more rails3 the better. maybe my next class should be based on this book instead, let me know what you think.
That course looks great! I wish such classes were available when I was in school. By the way, you might want to be careful about using Agile Web Development with Rails when teaching a course. Its code license is quite restrictive, as you can see at http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/source_code : Copyrights apply to this source code. You may use the source code in your own projects, however the source code may n…
I've been very careful to not use any of the book's code in any of my presentations. I only use the book as exercises for the students, and to server as a content template for what order to teach materials.
They donated free pdf books to all .edu students in the class, so i don't think they would sue me...hopefully...
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#14One suggestion I have though, is I feel like you are giving away too much on the site.
One point of interest is that I can just simply press 'view all as single page' and then do a Print to PDF and have everything in one nice PDF.
Granted, I am sure the official version looks MUCH nicer, but there isn't THAT much difference between the crude version and your version - in terms of content.
So one suggestion might be disabling that function. Allow users to be able to see all the chapters and everything, and even if they want to print it all out, they could still do it chapter by chapter, but that is a huge hassle.
Also, if you did that, I would love to know what impact it had on sales (if any) :)
Hope that helps.
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#15Hey mhartl...love that this is finally done. One suggestion I have though, is I feel like you are giving away too much on the site. One point of interest is that I can just simply press 'view all as single page' and then do a Print to PDF and have everything in one nice PDF. Granted, I am sure the official version looks MUCH nicer, but there isn't THAT much difference between the crude version and your version - in t…
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
That course looks great! I wish such classes were available when I was in school. By the way, you might want to be careful about using Agile Web Development with Rails when teaching a course. Its code license is quite restrictive, as you can see at http://books.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/source_code : Copyrights apply to this source code. You may use the source code in your own projects, however the source code may n…
Thanks for putting this together, you're definitely qualified, and i like what i've read. In case I end up jumping ship, do you prefer light or dark beer? (Also would you consider discounts for students with .edu email ?) I've been very careful to not use any of the book's code in any of my presentations. I only use the book as exercises for the students, and to server as a content template for what order to teach ma…
I like all kinds of beer, but let's go with dark for now. ;-)
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#17One question/suggestion I have is if you are planning to have some kind of forum on your site so people who are working with the book could help each other. Might be especially interesting for people who only have "general computer knowledge" (like me).
I know there are millions of other pages to look for help but have something dedicated especially to this book might still be useful. If you or other experienced programmers would answer some of the questions you could also charge for that (I would pay).
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#18Looks great! One question/suggestion I have is if you are planning to have some kind of forum on your site so people who are working with the book could help each other. Might be especially interesting for people who only have "general computer knowledge" (like me). I know there are millions of other pages to look for help but have something dedicated especially to this book might still be useful. If you or other exp…
I like your suggestion of having experienced programmers charge to answer questions, but I don't know of any successful pay-for-answers forum model. That doesn't rule it out, though, and maybe it's worth running an experiment at some point.
It's worth noting that there is a feedback form, available here: http://railstutorial.org/feedback. It's not as interactive as a forum, but it serves some of the same purposes.
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#19Looks great! One question/suggestion I have is if you are planning to have some kind of forum on your site so people who are working with the book could help each other. Might be especially interesting for people who only have "general computer knowledge" (like me). I know there are millions of other pages to look for help but have something dedicated especially to this book might still be useful. If you or other exp…
I've been considering a forum for a while, and I've looked as several possible alternatives. One problem is that a forum could easily be a no-win situation for me: if I participated regularly, then it would become a huge time sink; if I didn't, then people would likely complain that I wasn't answering their questions. I like your suggestion of having experienced programmers charge to answer questions, but I don't kno…
Re: The Ruby on Rails 3 Tutorial book (with PDF downloads) is out
#20Looks great! One question/suggestion I have is if you are planning to have some kind of forum on your site so people who are working with the book could help each other. Might be especially interesting for people who only have "general computer knowledge" (like me). I know there are millions of other pages to look for help but have something dedicated especially to this book might still be useful. If you or other exp…
I've been considering a forum for a while, and I've looked as several possible alternatives. One problem is that a forum could easily be a no-win situation for me: if I participated regularly, then it would become a huge time sink; if I didn't, then people would likely complain that I wasn't answering their questions. I like your suggestion of having experienced programmers charge to answer questions, but I don't kno…
Another way might be to state very explicit that it is a forum for reader to help each other and that no one should expect you to answer (actually not sure if that would work).
The comments in the Django book also look nice.