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Rising Rents Are Pushing More Tenants Past the Breaking Point

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Re: Rising Rents Are Pushing More Tenants Past the Breaking Point

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I sincerely doubt foreign purchases are the main driver of rent increase, and no study has ever demonstrated as much. The anti-foreigner mindset is extremely dangerous. Rising rents are almost entirely because of local restrictions on creating more housing. The beneficiaries of restricted supply are existing owners and landlords.

It's not anti-foreigner, it's anti-speculation. It's easy to see that home purchase prices are well beyond what any reasonable family would want to pay, and yet the prices keep rising. The problem isn't that it's foreign money coming in, it's that there's so much of it.

If the zoning laws werent there, they would be building new buildings(like they currently do in china. Hence the term ghost cities) instead of investing in overpriced existing stock.

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

This is bad but much more significant is restrictive zoning laws. I live in downtown chicago where rents are reasonable and skyscrapers for living at everywhere. Meanwhile, you gotta move heaven and earth to build high density housing in some cities like SF. Even suburbs will fight 4 story apartment buildings. It's not rocket science. Let the foreigners invest in building more of them. When the crash happens, the loc…

Chicago is also shrinking in population. Supply and demand and all that.

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

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Re: Rising Rents Are Pushing More Tenants Past the Breaking Point

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This is bad but much more significant is restrictive zoning laws. I live in downtown chicago where rents are reasonable and skyscrapers for living at everywhere. Meanwhile, you gotta move heaven and earth to build high density housing in some cities like SF. Even suburbs will fight 4 story apartment buildings. It's not rocket science. Let the foreigners invest in building more of them. When the crash happens, the loc…

Chicago is also shrinking in population. Supply and demand and all that.

Most of that is the poorer side. Due to violence in poorer neighborhoods, less blue collar work, and ironically higher rents in some poorer "hip" neighborhoods.

Many high rises under construction here....they aren't building them for tax breaks.

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

"To me, this is absurd. This is a human rights issue (homelessness is growing by a large amount)." Homelessness is a mental health issue. Nobody is homeless because of foreign speculators. Yes, people are indeed incentivized to relocate to housing markets that Chinese people have never heard of like, for instance, Tacoma . If those people spent half their time working and saving (like their parents did) as they spent…

When the crash comes they are probably too busy using those savings to stay afloat after losing jobs.

You'd be an idiot to invest unless your in a super stable job or confident you can find another quick in a recession.

I've been in a similar situation and thank god for Airbnb.

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> A 30 year old hairdresser in Seattle isn't renting because they don't want to deal with risk - they are renting because they can't save up a $XY,000 downpayment, and tie their entire salary into interest payments. If you're talking about cities like Seattle, the reason that a 30-year-old hairdresser would have a difficult time purchasing a place is because prices have been pushed absurdly high due to two factors: a…

I'm starting to think it is less about foreign investments, like a few other comments have noted, and more about changes at the top end of the middle class. Along with the large amounts of growth, wages in the upper middle class have really increased a lot. If you look at tech workers, it was pretty common to see average tech employees pulling in $75k-$150k a decade ago; today employees at a similar level and set of…

The zoning laws keep it that way.

In a truly fair market, the new tech class buys newer, larger homes or apartments while the hair dresser buys their old starter home or bachelor pad.

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

I sincerely doubt foreign purchases are the main driver of rent increase, and no study has ever demonstrated as much. The anti-foreigner mindset is extremely dangerous. Rising rents are almost entirely because of local restrictions on creating more housing. The beneficiaries of restricted supply are existing owners and landlords.

And low interest rates. There is a complex dynamic between the decision to buy vs rent and a prolonged low interest rate can lead to expectations of rising housing prices, which lead to a boom cycle.

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The problem is getting worse as new jobs are mainly created in cities. They also offer a more attractive infrastructure such as fast internet speeds and shorter commutes, than rural areas. There are of course many other advantages, but I think these are some of the most significant ones. This creates an unhealthy growth, which we see now manifests in the completely out-of-control rents worldwide. The only way this pr…

The issue with rising rents is zoning laws.

Since investors can't as easily build new housing, they invest in existing ones as speculation.

If the demand is there, the skies should be filled with construction cranes and new tech investment in building cheaper, faster, etc.

Instead we slap protectionism on it so everybody fights over a smaller piece of the real estate pie.

Re: Rising Rents Are Pushing More Tenants Past the Breaking Point

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

This is bad but much more significant is restrictive zoning laws. I live in downtown chicago where rents are reasonable and skyscrapers for living at everywhere. Meanwhile, you gotta move heaven and earth to build high density housing in some cities like SF. Even suburbs will fight 4 story apartment buildings. It's not rocket science. Let the foreigners invest in building more of them. When the crash happens, the loc…

Do you have a reference for "reasonable" rents in Chicago or can you break that down at all?

I'm genuinely curious. Coming from Vancouver where rents compared to salaries are considered beyond insane, what I found on Chicago's craigslist seem to be comparable. That is, accounting for exchange rate but not salaries.

Re: Rising Rents Are Pushing More Tenants Past the Breaking Point

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In large cities across the US (and probably most of the world), there is some very large scale foreign speculation in the housing market going on. This is leading to rising rents and rising home prices. In Seattle, for example, many (newly) wealthy Chinese people are buying houses purely for investment purposes. I know some of them. One of them has purchased 10 houses, and lives in only one of them (when they are in…

I sincerely doubt foreign purchases are the main driver of rent increase, and no study has ever demonstrated as much. The anti-foreigner mindset is extremely dangerous. Rising rents are almost entirely because of local restrictions on creating more housing. The beneficiaries of restricted supply are existing owners and landlords.

perhaps not directly, but you have to have some debt to back all the us t-bills that you are printing to make your int'l balance of payments seem credible and prevent the dollar from collapsing..

see also: freddie mac / high tuition / yadda

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