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Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Because I drink a lot. Can’t buy booze in self checkout (in CA).

I'm in Austin, TX and I can buy booze in self-checkout, as long as it isn't Sunday morning.

Do they scan your ID? If not, I'm surprised someone hasn't come knocking about this...

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Can't answer for GP, but I use human checkout to provide epsilon demand for cashiers who need the job. Efficiency isn't everything.

I used to feel that way about bank tellers (having been a former bank teller a long time ago...) then I realized I was wasting 20 minutes in line for a simple deposit that the machine could do in under two minutes without a queue.

The 20 minute wait was excused by your willingness to accept the offer of automation.

I visited a Walmart last week and notice they had converted 1/3 of the normal checkout aisles to self-checkout stations. They left the conveyor belts in and I noticed how people still used the conveyor belts the same way whether there was a line or not, unloading each item onto it before scanning them all.

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Judging from the pictures they'll still use paper price labels. Why? It seems extremely arcane to still use paper price labels in 2017, especially for stores as big and centrally run as Walmart. With digital price labels you can update prices centrally across the whole country within seconds, and it costs basically nothing to implement too, when the labor cost of manually updating paper price labels are factored in.

At the very least you will need another little robot or human that goes by and verifies that the prices have actually been updated. I can't imagine the LCD price displayers will be super high reliable and built to last decades.

You seem to think that electronic price labels is a new unproven technology, while it is actually extremely common and well tested. After the initial introduction period, where errors can occur, it's pretty much guaranteed to work as flawless as it does everywhere else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_shelf_label

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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> The robots are designed to free up store employees' time so they can use it to help customers. ...which is bullshit; Walmart just doesn't want the "robots taking our jobs" angle here. If they consider the current level at which employees help customers in the aisles sufficient, then they'll be cutting jobs to match that level rather than "freeing up" employees to do more of it.

For the foreseable future, robots and chatbots will be poorer UX than speaking to a human. Since it's not adding value to their product it's obviously being done for cost cutting and scale reasons.

I rarely get useful assistance in large chain stores. Asking "where is the pesto?" usually gets an answer like "I dunno, somewhere in aisle 7 maybe" with an indifferent shrug. I'd happily make three attempts at using a clunky voice interface if I got the answer "Aisle 7, bay 11, shelves 3 and 4. We have 18 different kinds of pesto currently in stock. Would you like me to take you there?"

It almost seems too obvious to say, but computers have different strengths and weaknesses to humans.

There are also social factors involved that may be advantageous to machines. Self-checkout machines offer an objectively worse experience most of the time, but a lot of shoppers prefer them. Some customers don't want to interact with a human cashier. Some will be buying embarrassing items and prefer the apparent anonymity of self-checkout. There's also a subtlety in how the self-checkout machines are arranged - because there's usually a common queue for several machines, customers don't feel pressured to finish their transaction quickly.

Shoppers may prefer being assisted by a robot for a variety of reasons, even if the robot isn't quite as good as the average human worker.

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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As cheap as cameras are these days, it would almost seem more cost effective and reliable to just put a camera every few feet on the opposite shelf.

Sure, but that doesn't help you get closer to a fully automated customer service bot. Probably this is just an initial step, the simplest thing that can still be useful, while gathering data and building expertise in the development team.

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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> the robots are 50% more efficient than a human doing the same task. They can also scan shelves three times more quickly and are a lot more accurate. Human employees can only scan shelves about twice a week. Personally, I want to see up-to-date retail stock mapping (that I can search) Walmart is testing a robot from Bossa Nova (Pittsburgh and SF) http://www.bossanova.com/ https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/boss…

> Personally, I want to see up-to-date retail stock mapping (that I can search) Just got from Lowes and they do it on the web and in their app. Search for an item, and if it is in stock it will show you its location on the store map. OTOH, every Walmart I've visted is unable to keep their shelves full. [1] How hard it is to keep something non-perishable (like deodorant) in stock? Somehow Target figured that out. [1]…

Anecdote time!

I bought a water softener at HomeDepot about three weeks ago. Initially went to my local Lowes where I had checked if one was in stock and at the store. Yes and Yes. Get to Lowes and there is no water softener, as the website indicated. Lowe's employee checked the back as well, wasn't there.

There are many problems with humans doing this "inventory business" at $10 an hour or so. The professional counts that happen once or so a year by outside agencies wouldn't be necessary otherwise.

To be fair, I've had issues at Home Depot as well... lots of; "The computer says there are 2 in stock... I have no idea where they are."

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Judging from the pictures they'll still use paper price labels. Why? It seems extremely arcane to still use paper price labels in 2017, especially for stores as big and centrally run as Walmart. With digital price labels you can update prices centrally across the whole country within seconds, and it costs basically nothing to implement too, when the labor cost of manually updating paper price labels are factored in.

Shelves need to be checked, faced and re-stocked on a daily basis. Someone is already checking every shelf in the store every day, so the actual labour cost of changing paper price labels is remarkably small.

Electronic shelf labels could facilitate dynamic price changes, but this is likely to be highly unpopular with customers. The mere presence of ESLs could imply volatile or manipulative pricing and undermine customer trust.

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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I'm in Austin, TX and I can buy booze in self-checkout, as long as it isn't Sunday morning.

Do they scan your ID? If not, I'm surprised someone hasn't come knocking about this...

In washington you have to wait, a long time, for a clerk to come over and check your id and unlock the checkout machine. it's obnoxious

Re: Walmart will soon have robots roaming the aisles in 50 stores

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Judging from the pictures they'll still use paper price labels. Why? It seems extremely arcane to still use paper price labels in 2017, especially for stores as big and centrally run as Walmart. With digital price labels you can update prices centrally across the whole country within seconds, and it costs basically nothing to implement too, when the labor cost of manually updating paper price labels are factored in.

I suppose because modernising existing systems is tedious, error-prone and expensive. The latter two in principle apply to implementing new systems as well but at least those are exciting and, well, new.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a single company that relies solely on digital processes. In terms of digitalisation everyone seems to be talking about AI, AR, robotics and technologies like Blockchain. However, while certainly interesting those aren't the main avenues for bringing about digital transformation.

Replacing paper-based processes and doing away with the need for physical presence to conduct business are.

So, Walmart will soon have robots running up and down their aisles while at the same time we still largely rely on paper for invoicing and accounting.

We'll soon have self-driving cars for all our wonderful commuting but we still haven't figured out how to use technology for remote working to make travelling to a ridiculously expensive place called 'office' a thing of the past.

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