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Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by T2_t2 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #71
samcheng wrote: post #5

It's not mentioned in the article, but I really think President Trump has been a savior for Twitter. Without those controversial tweets, Twitter would rarely be in much of the public's mind, and the company would have continued its slow slide into irrelevance. As it is, barely a day goes by without "Twitter" being mentioned in national news.

It's funny, but the 'Trump effect' is why myself and many I know use Twitter less, or at least only use it to interact on a micro level with friends/followers. Every trending topic is infested with so many Trump bots its just pointless to even engage.

...and you are likely on the front line of new things, and as such less important for Twitter's long term strategy, even as you were likely a reason for their initial growth.

That's the issue for SM sites like Twitter et al: going from early adopters to mass appeal. As much as some people hate Trump, his tweets likely got a lot of the 300 million non-SF, LA, NYC users involved.

I might be off on user uptake, but the mainstreaming of Twitter is vital for their ad-based model, so anything that appeals beyond the liberal elites is going to be solid for their bottom line.

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by thanatropism »

muzani wrote: post #94
cyberpunk0 wrote: post #2

More and more these social media platforms feel like scheme's. Round after round of funding without ever reaching profitablity

What most investors fund is something that creates value, and then convert that value to cash later. Creating value is the hard part. It's not always about a company's profitability either. Startups focus on exponentially growing their assets rather than cash flow then selling it all to someone else. Like Facebook can make more wealth from WhatsApp than they could do by themselves. Of course, profitability is often c…

Nearly every internet-related thing is "a big part of many people's lives but they won't pay for it".

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by mi100hael »

throwaway0255 wrote: post #138
datavirtue wrote: post #131

Twitter, like FaceBook, should be an open, distributed platform. They are too valuable to remain under the control of a person or small group of people. They are communities and their value slides, and danger to society increases, when they are under centralized control.

How do you propose we identify companies that fit that criteria, and take ownership and control of them away from the people who created them? And remember, your proposal can't be a greater danger to society than the problem you're trying to fix, or that would defeat the purpose.

Yay, Socialism!

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by [deleted] »

odammit wrote: post #187
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find the article but an economist was estimating Trump's worth to Twitter at almost $2 billion. So I can't say I'm surprised; he is the single best thing that has happened for their company in YEARS.

I’m curious if and how much stock he holds in it.

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Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by BinaryIdiot »

htormey wrote: post #175
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find the article but an economist was estimating Trump's worth to Twitter at almost $2 billion. So I can't say I'm surprised; he is the single best thing that has happened for their company in YEARS.

Here ya go: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-17/what-is-t...

Ha, yup I think that's what I originally read. Thanks!

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by JohnTHaller »

T2_t2 wrote: post #201
JohnTHaller wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's funny, but the 'Trump effect' is why myself and many I know use Twitter less, or at least only use it to interact on a micro level with friends/followers. Every trending topic is infested with so many Trump bots its just pointless to even engage.

...and you are likely on the front line of new things, and as such less important for Twitter's long term strategy, even as you were likely a reason for their initial growth. That's the issue for SM sites like Twitter et al: going from early adopters to mass appeal. As much as some people hate Trump, his tweets likely got a lot of the 300 million non-SF, LA, NYC users involved. I might be off on user uptake, but the…

By bots I'm not talking about Trump fans who have Twitter accounts. I'm talking about actual bots. Huge networks of fake accounts with predictable combos of words for names based around Trump that solely post/retweet about Trump that only follow and are followed by 10s of thousands of similar accounts and use a specific schedule for hundreds and thousands of these tweets/retweets/likes. The kind of bots that take an innocuous trending topic like #WhatsUpWednesday and push 5 different anti-Hillary memes to the top of it. A full year after the election. And the 5 memes are the exact same ones they pushed to the top of a similar trending topic a month prior. It doesn't turn off 'liberal elites', it turns off anyone with a brain.

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by mFixman »

bazoiks wrote: post #113
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And thus why he will never have violated the ToS. He could openly threaten to murder someone and Twitter would not suspend him. (Though in fairness they rarely suspend anyone else either.)

Didn't they suspend Milo for suggesting a female actress was ugly?

They suspended Milo for posting faked Twitter screenshots to organize a racist witch hunt against a female actress.

Re: Twitter says it could turn first-ever profit

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Post by travmatt »

c3534l wrote: post #60
samstave wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, we know that twitter maintains "celebrity handlers" --- who is on the Trump handler team?

Someone did a linguistic analysis and demonstrated that there are two writers of Trump's tweets. Trump's were all the crazy ones, his handler's were all of the moderate ones and the ones that walked back what was said previously.

Other people have done longitudinal analyses and have talked about how there was also a shift in ~2011 as he launched the birther movement.
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