I'm sure these bans will be totally fair and unbiased.
Reddit Bans Nazi Groups and Others in Crackdown on Violent Content
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#12Hmm. This is going to be interesting. I mean, nearly everyone should be fine with banning Nazis. After all, they're vile and in my opinion don't deserve any place on the world except the inside of a jail cell... The problem is: where will the line be drawn? What about Black Lives Matter? The more, uh, militant parts of the Antifa movement? Militant animal rights groups (which actually are treated as domestic terroris…
When those groups draw enough ire to affect ad revenue, they will be banned. There are no philosophical debates in the boardrooms of corporations, so let's stop pretending like these moves represent some kind of moral stance.
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#13Why has free speech fallen out of favour with SV? Ironically, it happened rather silently.
It's not just an Eternal September-like phenomenon. The very same people who used to support it not only don't any more but pretend they never did in the first place.
Speaking of the founding fathers, I ask him what he thinks they would have thought of Reddit.
"A bastion of free speech on the World Wide Web? I bet they would like it," he replies. It's the digital form of political pamplets.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/02/reddit-c...
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#14It's really, really not easy to stand up for the rights of Nazis. If you're a Nazi, you can use voat.co as they are very free speech oriented. You don't have to be a Nazi to participate, but it's a good idea to have a thick skin if you do go there. I go there and talk to the White Nationalists. They are pretty much Nazis. They know I'm not white and that I don't agree with them. They don't scare me. They are scared a…
According to a study about Reddit itself, banning can do some good:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/business/reddit-limits-no...
The general principle is sound - people get sucked into extremism when they stumble upon it on a large site like Reddit. Voat, on the other hand, you're not going to find unless you're looking for it.
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#16Hmm. This is going to be interesting. I mean, nearly everyone should be fine with banning Nazis. After all, they're vile and in my opinion don't deserve any place on the world except the inside of a jail cell... The problem is: where will the line be drawn? What about Black Lives Matter? The more, uh, militant parts of the Antifa movement? Militant animal rights groups (which actually are treated as domestic terroris…
Can you go into some more detail on how BLM "advocates, tolerates, or embraces" violence?
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#17Hmm. This is going to be interesting. I mean, nearly everyone should be fine with banning Nazis. After all, they're vile and in my opinion don't deserve any place on the world except the inside of a jail cell... The problem is: where will the line be drawn? What about Black Lives Matter? The more, uh, militant parts of the Antifa movement? Militant animal rights groups (which actually are treated as domestic terroris…
I think everyone is freaking out about the headline unnecessarily here. From the first paragraph:
has started to implement a new policy to ban content that glorifies and incites violence, and among the first to go were forums for Nazi, racist and white supremacist groups.
They aren't banning Nazis because they are Nazis. They are banning Nazis that glorify or incite violence. And anyone else that glorifies or incites violence. A quick look at /r/blacklivesmatter shows no posts of that nature, but I'm willing to be corrected.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, they're still there, and no, everyone who disagrees with you isn't a Nazi. > we will take action against any content that encourages, glorifies, incites, or calls for violence or physical harm against an individual or a group of people This also means that people who encourage you to "punch a Nazi" or that there's nothing wrong with punching a Nazi/racist should also be banned.
That place promotes violence and hate on a daily basis.
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#19It's going to be interesting to see how the rights of free association evolve as platforms kick more and more people off of them.
On one hand, most people agree that platform owners get to make the rules for their platforms.
On the other hand, some bans might amount to discrimination based on protected classes.
The most interesting thing imo is that political activities and affiliations are protected classes in California, theoretically political bans are violations just like bans on religion / race. We'll see how it pans out.
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#20Antifa subreddits will be removed?
So they banned Far_Right but https://www.reddit.com/r/farleft/ is ok? What a cool place Reddit is! /s
Maybe take it as a mark of grim respect.
Far left and anarchist groups are generally considered to be unsuccessful in the arc of modern history, with even China partially adopting western aspects of governance to remain competitive. Their successes are almost entirely in appealing to moderates and with heavy appeasement of capitalism. One of the most famous attempt at true communism ended spectacularly, with a bulk victimization of many marginalized people who had been coaxed out of the shadows by a regime that failed to hold power to protect them.
Far right groups are taken much more seriously, because a conflict they started and escalated blighted an entire continent.
If it seems unfair that it's okay to make a video game (admittedly: a very fun, enjoyable game) about killing nazis by the dozen is pop culture but games about killing antifa can't even get news coverage, maybe that's true. It's because the victors of the last conflict against organized fascism accept violence as a constant reaffirmation that the binding substrate of civilization is democracy. You're "in-tribe" if you're on that train. If you seek to subvert or destroy democracy, that triggers violent a rejection by most of the western world.
A topical example: It's generally regarded as somewhat funny that Richard Spencer gets punched. Technically, it's illegal and we accept violence is no way to treat citizens in principle. Yet a lot of people in the US do hold racist views even if you take a very narrow definition of racism, and we don't see mass punching at scale. Spencer's singled out because he's publicly part of the ideology proposing the subversion and destruction of democracy. This turns off many of the typical restraints we'd exercise. Bannon and Yarvin probably need to be cautious of punch sqads as well as their profile raises.
Perhaps unsurprisingly (and imo, justifiably) so. As a general rule, America bends its own rules when it perceives something taking advantage of said rules. That's not a new thing, and it explains a lot of the legislative dithering that we have seen over the decades and a lot of the political rhetoric we see playing out today.
But I really do want to stress how much fun it is to have pop cultural license to go back and play a mindless game like Wolf2 for a bit.