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Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Re: Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Post by kolbe »

throwaway0255 wrote: post #5
kolbe wrote: post #2

At least one step in the right direction. But we're still pretty far from reaching some parity with the idea that it's often a life sentence to be driving in a car with someone who commits a murder if you're poor and black, but it's some soft white collar club fed crime to get thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives.

I can choose not to buy and take opiates. I can't choose to not be murdered. Murderers are much worse, and prisons better serve their purpose when they're used for murderers and their accomplices than when they're used for white collar crime.

It's not a great societal practice that we demand everyone be smart enough to defy medical decree in order to remain safe. I know you 140 IQ antisocial introverts always want to structure society as a kleptocracy for the intelligent, but that would be a shit place to live.

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Post by kolbe »

watty wrote: post #9
kolbe wrote: post #2

At least one step in the right direction. But we're still pretty far from reaching some parity with the idea that it's often a life sentence to be driving in a car with someone who commits a murder if you're poor and black, but it's some soft white collar club fed crime to get thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives.

Let's keep comments relative please. Systemic racism is a problem but has nothing to do with Insys.

Should I choose some other crime to compare it to? Ok, how about the fact that possessing this guy's drug without a prescription would land a white guy in jail faster than Kapoor's going to get there for peddling it to hundreds of thousands of people?

You don't need to get hung up on the crime that I'm juxtaposing it with. Just notice the gulf between some types of justice and others.

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Post by chk_ur_autism »

QAPereo wrote: post #6
throwaway0255 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can choose not to buy and take opiates. I can't choose to not be murdered. Murderers are much worse, and prisons better serve their purpose when they're used for murderers and their accomplices than when they're used for white collar crime.

Spoken like someone who’s never had major surgery or trauma.

The ignorance of this comment is absolutely astounding. (not yours, the parent!)

Re: Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Post by grzm »

notyourwork wrote: post #10
throwaway0255 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can choose not to buy and take opiates. I can't choose to not be murdered. Murderers are much worse, and prisons better serve their purpose when they're used for murderers and their accomplices than when they're used for white collar crime.

I don't understand why this needed to be on a throwaway account?

The account you're responding to is over 3 months old, which, while not as old as some, doesn't appear to have been created purely for this conversation. There are quite a few members on HN whose accounts appear to have originally been created as a throwaway that have gone on to use it as their main account. Let's err on the side of giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Re: Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Post by kbenson »

watty wrote: post #9
kolbe wrote: post #2

At least one step in the right direction. But we're still pretty far from reaching some parity with the idea that it's often a life sentence to be driving in a car with someone who commits a murder if you're poor and black, but it's some soft white collar club fed crime to get thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives.

Let's keep comments relative please. Systemic racism is a problem but has nothing to do with Insys.

A case is being made regarding relative punishments. I find this is an entirely appropriate time and location to bring this argument, given that the main criteria for comments is that they are substantive and contribute. I think this one contributes by starting an interesting side conversation, which are in my opinion one of the best parts of HN.

If you don't want to take part, just click the [-] to collapse the thread and ignore it. If you take issue with the actual content of the comment, a bit more information on why you think it has nothing to do with a case where a high placed executive might face relatively minor punishment for, as the GP puts it, getting "thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives." might help clarify that stance.

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Post by nkrisc »

throwaway0255 wrote: post #5
kolbe wrote: post #2

At least one step in the right direction. But we're still pretty far from reaching some parity with the idea that it's often a life sentence to be driving in a car with someone who commits a murder if you're poor and black, but it's some soft white collar club fed crime to get thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives.

I can choose not to buy and take opiates. I can't choose to not be murdered. Murderers are much worse, and prisons better serve their purpose when they're used for murderers and their accomplices than when they're used for white collar crime.

White collar crime can do far much more societal damage than a single murderer can. I don't see any reason they both can't share prison.

Re: Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Post by mikeash »

throwaway0255 wrote: post #5
kolbe wrote: post #2

At least one step in the right direction. But we're still pretty far from reaching some parity with the idea that it's often a life sentence to be driving in a car with someone who commits a murder if you're poor and black, but it's some soft white collar club fed crime to get thousands addicted to your drug, take their money, ruin their families for years and eventually take their lives.

I can choose not to buy and take opiates. I can't choose to not be murdered. Murderers are much worse, and prisons better serve their purpose when they're used for murderers and their accomplices than when they're used for white collar crime.

Choice is irrelevant unless it’s an informed choice. It’s impossible to make an informed choice when people keep the information from you.

These people are responsible for hundreds or thousands of deaths. It’s a little less direct than shooting someone in the face, but it should still be considered mass murder.

Re: Billionaire Insys founder charged in U.S. opioid bribe case

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Post by tryingagainbro »

...as much as 10,000 times more potent than morphine ...In the US Fentanyl caused 20,100 deaths in 2016, a rise of 540% over the past 3 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fentanyl

Put him in the cell next to El Chappo IMO.

If the government digs they will find something and they have plenty of tools for informers. You cannot manage a billion dollar corporation with thousands of employees by whispering while walking like John Gotti. There's trail...

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