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Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by [deleted] »

openmosix wrote: post #79
astura wrote: post #20

I'll preface this with, I don't know who this guy is and this is the first time I heard anything about this, I am unfamiliar with the allegations. I am just absolutely shocked by this >I don’t have employees, I don’t cut checks for investment. None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. JFC, does anyone actual…

The problem is, he is one of the MOST influential people in the tech ecosystem. Yes, he is a "blogger", but in many cases he could make or break a product, a startup or a career. A friend of mine startup was noticed (and acquired) by Facebook because Scoble started blogging about it and that came to the attention of Zuckerberg. This guy leaves and breathes in tech conferences, as he is a regular invited speaker/guest…

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Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by jcahill »

openmosix wrote: post #79
astura wrote: post #20

I'll preface this with, I don't know who this guy is and this is the first time I heard anything about this, I am unfamiliar with the allegations. I am just absolutely shocked by this >I don’t have employees, I don’t cut checks for investment. None of the women who came forward were ever in a position where I could make or break their careers. Sexual Harassment requires that I have such power. JFC, does anyone actual…

The problem is, he is one of the MOST influential people in the tech ecosystem. Yes, he is a "blogger", but in many cases he could make or break a product, a startup or a career. A friend of mine startup was noticed (and acquired) by Facebook because Scoble started blogging about it and that came to the attention of Zuckerberg. This guy leaves and breathes in tech conferences, as he is a regular invited speaker/guest…

I challenge "one of the MOST influential people" as vigorously as is posthumanly possible.

Off the top, how many people here who are both under 30 and hack on something (hardware, wetware, anything) know who scoble is? I only vaguely remembered his name with effort, and even that may have been by analogy to somebody else.

In fact: the more I look into him, the more the expression "never-was" (as a more extreme form of "has-been") comes to mind. Just step through his wikipedia entry⁽¹⁾ and it'll be hard to disagree with the assessment:

    > 4 Appearances
    >
    > In November, 2013, Scoble was co-keynote speaker with
    > Shel Israel at the 2013 Telstra Australian Digital
    > Summit. Scoble and Israel talked to their book titled
    > "Age of Context: Mobile, Sensors, Data and the Future of
    > Privacy".
read: noise.

    > On April 1, 2008, The Register ran an April fool’s spoof
    > claiming Robert Scoble was actually an IBM bot.
read: a stumbling, college newspaper-esque exercise⁽²⁾ in retrofitting a disposable assignment (april 1) to trash-talk scoble openly. unambiguously dripping with disdain, really.

    > On November 14, 2007, he was a contestant on a game show
    > at NewTeeVee Live […]
at what now?

    > [f]eaturing other internet celebrities such as Veronica
    > Belmont, Casey McKinnon, Cali Lewis, Kevin Rose, Justin
    > Kan, and others.
who? there are two tech names here, and zero celebrities.

    > On November 6, 2006, Scoble appeared as a panelist on a
    > Chinese Software Professionals Association event called
    > "The New Age of Influence: The Impact of Social Computing
    > on Media and Marketing".
read: noise.

    > 5 Milliscoble
    >
    > In September 2008, Follow cost, a website which
    > calculated how annoying it would be to follow anyone on
    > Twitter, invented the milliscoble unit of measurement
    > defined as: "1/1000 of the average daily Twitter status
    > updates by Robert Scoble as of 10:09 CST September 25,
    > 2008." At that time, Scoble was averaging 21.21 tweets
    > per day, so a milliscoble is 0.02121 tweets per day. A
    > person with a milliscoble rating of 1000 will be as
    > annoying to follow as Scoble.
read: further open contempt of scoble as shitposter incarnate.

So what do we have? A guy who had some kind of readership as a microsoft evangelist 13+ years ago, then circled the drain of ~web tv~ for a decade, then landed an Entrepreneur in Residence gig — read: unpaid internship⁽³⁾ — ultimately just circling a slightly newer, slightly shinier drain (VR).

One who, along the way, consciously uncoupled⁽⁴⁾ from all the content streams and personal branding whose maintenance constitute the entirety of an independent writing career. The blogger's own site, at .blog no less, is a contentless placeholder now.

We're left with some sorta phantasm of a now-defunct, still-not-tech personality: a never-was.

If the Ghostblogger of Milliscobles Past can kill your startup, your startup almost certainly didn't need to exist.

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¹ http://enwp.org/Robert_Scoble

² https://theregister.co.uk/2008/04/01/ibm_scoble_nano

³ https://scobleizer.blog/2016/05/17/mental-blocks-resource-co...

⁴ https://scobleizer.blog/2012/07/02/scalable-livin

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by SauciestGNU »

cisanti wrote: post #170
astura wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean exactly as "strange views on what is sexual assult?" Are you getting it confused with sexual harassment? which we are also talking about in this thread.

I meant the whole idea that regret can be rape. Also the fact that if you have power, everything can be seen as a sexual assault

Regret is not ever rape. I question from what sources you are getting your information if you believe so. What can happen is that someone who was too intoxicated/incapacitated to give consent to sexual activity can make a complaint because sexual activity occurred without voluntary, freely given consent.

If you have power, many things can be considered harassment, which is different than assault. It's similar to the reasoning behind prohibiting psychological therapists from engaging in sexual acts with their patients.

Really, it's pretty simple. Make sure a person can give consent. Don't abuse your status to obtain sex. Don't rape.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by Anderkent »

oh_sigh wrote: post #159
Anderkent wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and then if you ever try to use those recordings it gets even creepier.

"I was afraid that people would make false claims against me, so I recorded my presence at some events. Check it out and you be the judge if accuser us telling the truth or not"

'sexual abuser records creepy video of his unknowing victims using a hidden body camera'

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by astura »

cisanti wrote: post #170
astura wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean exactly as "strange views on what is sexual assult?" Are you getting it confused with sexual harassment? which we are also talking about in this thread.

I meant the whole idea that regret can be rape. Also the fact that if you have power, everything can be seen as a sexual assault

You're very mistaken, regret is certainly not rape. I have absolutely no idea where you could have gotten that information from.

For the second point, you're confusing sexual harassment and sexual assault.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by sjs382 »

It's incredibly telling when someone makes a defense and comes off significantly worse as a result.

He should have listened to his lawyer, but I'm glad he didn't.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by pwinnski »

cisanti wrote: post #170
astura wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean exactly as "strange views on what is sexual assult?" Are you getting it confused with sexual harassment? which we are also talking about in this thread.

I meant the whole idea that regret can be rape. Also the fact that if you have power, everything can be seen as a sexual assault

Not in the USA, it can't. Some darker corners of the internet say that's the case in Sweden, but even then they're mis-stating the case.

In the USA, even rape is often questioned as rape. We've had national politicians make false claims about "legitimate rape," and how rare that was.

In no case whatsoever is there any idea that "regret = rape," and if you've been led to believe that about the USA, you've been in some very disturbing places on the internet.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by DonHopkins »

jonknee wrote: post #11
minimaxir wrote: post #4

This is not a dupe of his previous apology (which has been deleted). This is something else entirely that will be talked about years later. To give you an idea of what it’s about, it starts with “I have rejected my lawyer’s advice to not make a statement”

> This is something else entirely that will be talked about years later. I don't think he's nearly famous enough for anything he says to be talked about years later. He'll most likely be forgotten, there are plenty of other pitchmen in the Valley to take his role.

Hopefully some pitchwomen too.

Re: No, of that I'm innocent

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Post by zimpenfish »

jonknee wrote: post #11
minimaxir wrote: post #4

This is not a dupe of his previous apology (which has been deleted). This is something else entirely that will be talked about years later. To give you an idea of what it’s about, it starts with “I have rejected my lawyer’s advice to not make a statement”

> This is something else entirely that will be talked about years later. I don't think he's nearly famous enough for anything he says to be talked about years later. He'll most likely be forgotten, there are plenty of other pitchmen in the Valley to take his role.

> I don't think he's nearly famous enough for anything he says to be talked about years later.

I would put money on this being used in future education as an example of why you should listen to your lawyers when they say "don't make a statement". Because it is a classic.

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