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Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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It's not a true replacement if it costs 10-20x as much, though.

I wonder how much the face sensor on the new iPhones is going to cost? Will people be able to buy it as a separate part? I have to think that for repair purposes it will be available, but the price point will no doubt be inflated.

> Will people be able to buy it as a separate part?

Eventually, yes. I'm not sure there'll be a cloned part on Aliexpress next year, but there will be parts from broken phones for sure.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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This makes me sad, because my experience with my own Kinect (360) was very much a "this could be awesome if it wasn't burdened with stupid crap". I bought it for my kids. Turns out, the Kinect is awful for kids. They were far too little for the Kinect to properly see them, and the motions to actually use it were super fussy. Then if I walked in to try to help them, the Kinect would freak out that there was a new pers…

> I bought it for my kids. Turns out, the Kinect is awful for kids. What's sad is that it could have been great, if MS just put a little more dedication and effort towards it. The Kinect Sesame Street games had so much potential. Hopefully another company can do better. Could be wrong but I think Apple bought the company behind the original Kinect's technology

I believe they did, but they miniaturized it and are using it for their face recognition technology in the iPhone X to unlock the phone.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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they should make a kinect for pc/mac

You can use the Kinect on PC.

it should be better marketed for PC, for example in the vein of google home or amazon echo.

you could have a little machine that motivates you to do a workout for example, that can also connect to a pc for more advanced apps.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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Not entirely. LIDAR has other issues important when building self-driving cars. LIDAR can't read signs. LIDAR doesn't work well in the rain, though progress is being made these days.. And don't forget the cameras tesla uses don't rely solely on the visual spectrum we see. They can still see through fog via infrared, for example.

Can't the LIDAR eventually be made to use IR wavelengths and thus synthesize 3-d images through fog? also, the question of seeing the fog is more nuanced that can see/can't see: "Just like it is impossible to give a simple answer to the question “How far can I see with a thermal imaging camera?”, it is equally impossible to say how much shorter the range will be in foggy or rainy conditions. This is not only dependan…

IR LIDAR is already widely used for terrestrial mapping and meteorology. I think if that was the solution it would have already been tried.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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Occipital still produces the Structure Sensor [1], which uses similar technology to the 1st generation Kinect. They've also recently introduced the Structure Core [2], a new generation, miniaturized depth sensor designed to be embedded into anything that needs that kind of sensing. [1] https://structure.io [2] https://structure.io/core

It's not a true replacement if it costs 10-20x as much, though.

Did I miss something? It's $379 on the site. Was the kinect actually only $18.95-37.90?! Now I wish I had picked one up. I thought they were north of $100.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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There are seated vr experiences too, but as a Vive owner, I don't think they're going to get cheap enough quickly enough to take off. Maybe we'll get attempt #3 taking off next decade..

I don't think price has much to do with it. Even if they were free I can't see them taking off.

VR isn't going to replace flat-panel gaming, it's a new medium, and for more than just games. Think of a VR headset as a new kind of output display, not a new format for video games.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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This makes me sad, because my experience with my own Kinect (360) was very much a "this could be awesome if it wasn't burdened with stupid crap". I bought it for my kids. Turns out, the Kinect is awful for kids. They were far too little for the Kinect to properly see them, and the motions to actually use it were super fussy. Then if I walked in to try to help them, the Kinect would freak out that there was a new pers…

My 2-3 year old kids love the Kinect on the xbone. Well, the love Fruit Ninja on there and have zero problems with it despite their stature. They've played the game weekly for a couple years now. I just point the Kinect down a little for them (and play on my knees if I join them) and sometimes move one sofa back a couple feet if more than one person is playing at a time. The improvements in the xbone over 360 in the…

I had hopes for the xbone kinect, but they seemed to stop making games for it when they unbundled it (which was before I bought into it).

Microsoft could have taken the outcry about the bundling 2 ways:

1) Make the Kinect awesome with awesome software, and make those people wish they had gotten it bundled.

2) Fall on their sword and assume that when people don't want to be _forced_ into something is also means that they don't want to choose it ever.

They obviously chose option 2, but I think option 1 would have served them better.

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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One thing that hasn't been mentioned: Kinect was Microsoft's reaction to Wii's success. I worked at Microsoft when the first Kinect came out. I spoke with a few members of that team (non-engineers). My question was very clear -- are you expecting this to takeover for controller based gaming? I don't recall all the responses, but I think the overall sentiment was along the lines of "No, but it might", whereas my thoug…

This is my concern with VR not taking off with the mainstream. Many gamers (myself included) want to plop down on the couch and not move around much. Many of the VR experiences coming out require movement, not to mention the initial effort to put on the headset. I'm a huge proponent of VR (backer #238 of the Rift on Kickstarter), but I worry VR headsets will end up in the dustbin with the Kinect for this very reason.…

I don't see any way that VR can take off with the mainstream. I honestly just don't get it. If the Kinect and 3D TVs didn't work, why would this?

Re: Microsoft Has Stopped Manufacturing The Kinect

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It's not a true replacement if it costs 10-20x as much, though.

Did I miss something? It's $379 on the site. Was the kinect actually only $18.95-37.90?! Now I wish I had picked one up. I thought they were north of $100.

They are referring to the Core above - $5000 to start, $1000 for each additional sensor.
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