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If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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get a job that counts... work in your field The guy had a Masters in English . Having an English degree does not necessarily mean you are qualified to be a writer or teacher. Depending on where he lives (small town vs. big city), I think the options could be more limited than you think.

Writing documentation is a skill that requires more than a good command of the English language. The technical writers that I've hired in the past didn't even have English degrees, but were excellent at what they do. I don't think the copywriters in the media agencies I worked at had English degrees either. I've only hired one English major in my career, and that was as a software developer. He was -much- better at w…

an English degree is not required to write well. However, writing well, one would hope, would be required to obtain an advanced English degree. I'm focusing on the ability to write well as a marketable skill.

Yes, you need to add that to something else to be useful, usually, but the ability to write well is fairly rare, and it's a skill the guy has, so it's a good place for him to start.

>Writing documentation is a skill that requires more than a good command of the English language. The technical writers that I've hired in the past didn't even have English degrees, but were excellent at what they do.

non-technical products require documentation as well.

Like I said, he'll need to learn some other things to go along with the writing ability, but having the writing ability there up front helps a lot, and hopefully allows him to find an employer who might be willing to take a chance and be patient while he learns the rest of the trade (at a lower pay rate, of course, than an experienced documentation writer)

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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Why are you voting this guy down? It's a quote from Idiocracy.

I didn't vote him down, but without quotation marks or attribution, it simply looks like a slam toward the author. And I haven't seen the movie often enough to recognize the quote immediately. (I've seen it once, and the only quote that I remember is from the Costco greeter.)

It also doesn't help that the remark is homophobic.

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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I read a lot of comments mentioning how the author is overqualified for the jobs he's applying to. But we've gotta consider two things: 1) We're currently in a depression/recession. Jobs are scarce out there. 2) He has a Masters degree in English! Compared to most of us on Hacker News, we don't have experience job hunting with an arts degree.

The events happened at least three years ago.

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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Rubish.

And I'll say what I like because this is the internet and I will care about you as much as you cared about my five minutes.

Your tone is patronising. You are shouting at me, I feel like a little child in a very dark room with a very tall man shouting at me and I have watery eyes and will any moment start crying.

First, English Literature. That is arts. Arts and business are two different things. With english lit you write the subjective rubish you did and make me feel very bad for no reason whatever.

Second, is this all fiction?

Third, how old are you? - just to say I didnt read it all, I didnt wanna cry and didnt like the darkness.

Fourth, it is not smart to study English Literature, you read book instead.

Fifth, it is not smart to apply to jobs you are not qualified for.

Sixth, get a proper degree!

Seventh. Are you saying that someone who went to Harvard would be looked down compared to someone who went to, well I dont know about there in the US, but a rubish university by reputation, unless you were appying to be a bin collector?

Or are you saying that really employers do not want smart people - smart by the standards of reality - that is great university reputation and numbers or letters in your paper- when applying for the jobs which kinda - if not in reality than perception - require a lot of responsibility and someone's intellect you can trust when making far reaching decisions?

To Conclude, I don't like you, whoever that wrote it. It is grim, it is shouting at me, at no point, as far as I read anyway, and if you were so smart you would have made my reading pleasurable and I would have finished reading it, did I think that you showed any reason for me to think that you are smart, your article is full of generalisation, opinions,

You know, perhaps if you are smart enough you will understand this, you article gives those same emotions as - and this is brutal - as those articles written by journalists in populous newspapers did when they were arguing for invading Iraq. I do not say it is of that grave scale, it gives those same emotions.

So god let me pray that you do not become a journalist and so too god I pray that your articles, if of the same kind, do not find their way to HN again.

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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get a job that counts... work in your field The guy had a Masters in English . Having an English degree does not necessarily mean you are qualified to be a writer or teacher. Depending on where he lives (small town vs. big city), I think the options could be more limited than you think.

Writing documentation is a skill that requires more than a good command of the English language. The technical writers that I've hired in the past didn't even have English degrees, but were excellent at what they do. I don't think the copywriters in the media agencies I worked at had English degrees either. I've only hired one English major in my career, and that was as a software developer. He was -much- better at w…

>And most of us started our careers doing stuff like "admin assistants" etc.

Really? what is the upwards path there? I mean, is it easier to jump from 'admin assistant' to IT than to just jump into IT with no experience at all?

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

#88

I'm 35. I'll try not to be too critical. Moral of the story: Being educated doesn't say anything about you being smart. Here's the rub. A college degree is a specialization. That's why you "major" in something. It was never designed to be an extension of high school. So, you should get a degree in something that you are both passionate about and also accept the limited career paths that come with that particular pass…

Personally, I have a BA in English with a minor in CS. Except for my first year out of college (performance analyst at a pension consulting firm -- I had applied to their computer department!), I've spent my entire career in computers. I've ticked most of the boxes -- coding, junior DBA work, junior sysadmin work, spec / doc writing, system architect, team lead, Director of Programming, and now Co-Founder.

I am incredibly glad that I majored in English and not CS or something "more practical." English in particular and Humanities in general teach you the most valuable skill there is: effective communication. Everything else you can self-teach or hire, but it's really, really hard to find a more efficient system for learning good communication than by writing 5-10 page papers 2-4 times a week for four years, while having to participate in class discussion (frequently on things you haven't actually read but were supposed to, which teaches you a lot about active and reflective listening).

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

#89

"Life is too short to walk around reluctantly doing crap work" -Bruce Sterling

And life can be even shorter if you don't.

That's a false dichotomy. The issue is not doing crap work, the issue is doing it reluctantly. If you put a little effort into your work and think of the big picture, even the stupidest job can be considered a success if you pair it with a solid Plan-B and an exit strategy.

Work on crap, but also work on your dreams while at it. What do you have to give up beside TV and idling? I bet this English graduate did nothing on his spare time but read Walt Whitman. If he is so smart, why hasn't he reverse-engineered human interaction and learned how to build rapport with people? Hint: you meet people on their terms when you need them. Learn to mimic their personalities and walk in lockstep with them.

Re: If You’re So Damn Smart, Why Aren’t You Rich?

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And life can be even shorter if you don't.

That's a false dichotomy. The issue is not doing crap work, the issue is doing it reluctantly . If you put a little effort into your work and think of the big picture, even the stupidest job can be considered a success if you pair it with a solid Plan-B and an exit strategy. Work on crap, but also work on your dreams while at it. What do you have to give up beside TV and idling? I bet this English graduate did nothin…

It's not a false dichotomy. It's not true to say that life is too short to spend doing crap work because some people don't have the choice to make a living in any other way, no matter how reluctant their decision is and no matter how much it cuts against their dreams.
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