DOJ Subpoenas Twitter About Five Users Over a Smiley Emoji Tweet
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#2I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it?
How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources?
It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the issues that allow the bad actors to get elected over a "good" rep?
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#3I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it? How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources? It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the i…
> what the hell do we do
More like what can we do, which is essentially nothing besides begging elected officials to do something about it (spoiler: they won't).
Alternative is court cases, but those take a lot of time and money, and rulings won't necessarily have the reach you want even if they're in your favor.
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#4I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it? How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources? It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the i…
I'm as upset as you, but the abuses of federal law enforcement are nothing new. In fact they may have improved compared to the past, but it's impossible and pointless to compare too closely.
The internet age changes the dynamics and visibility, so that is actually some comfort. In decades past, this exact same action to "protect their own" would have gone down without a blip on the national radar. It should be noted, however, the agency's power to use all the data they're wanting (phone IDs, in particular) to conduct ongoing intrusive surveillance at low cost is new and worrisome.
It should also be noted that prosecutorial power works both ways: reading about the tactics used by Mueller against Trump, et al, is both encouraging and scary to me. It's nice when your friends are powerful, but scary when you realize their loyalty is fleeting.
Re: DOJ Subpoenas Twitter About Five Users Over a Smiley Emoji Tweet
#5I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it? How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources? It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the i…
The problem isn't the government, it's the "citizens." We're a society of cowards, who are afraid of everything and want the government to do something about it. E.g. crime rates are at historic lows, but more than half of Americans say that they worry a "great deal" about crime: http://news.gallup.com/poll/190475/americans-concern-crime-c....
It's not getting any better, it's probably getting worse. We're not that far away from people being arrested for the tweets they post: http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/17/us/twitter-journalist-strobe-e.... Millennials don't see anything wrong with that sort of thing: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/07/why-it....
Re: DOJ Subpoenas Twitter About Five Users Over a Smiley Emoji Tweet
#6I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it? How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources? It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the i…
The problem isn't the government, it's the "citizens." We're a society of cowards, who are afraid of everything and want the government to do something about it. E.g. crime rates are at historic lows, but more than half of Americans say that they worry a "great deal" about crime: http://news.gallup.com/poll/190475/americans-concern-crime-c... . It's not getting any better, it's probably getting worse. We're not that…
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Re: DOJ Subpoenas Twitter About Five Users Over a Smiley Emoji Tweet
#7So a security researcher who was angry about getting raided and hit with a CFAA accusation after an unauthorized access of private medical data started doxxing the FBI agent responsible on Twitter. And in response the FBI is requesting information about the Twitter users that were part of the conversation.
Doesn't seem quite as sensational once you know the backstory. The author is right that the charges aren't the strongest but we can't be obtuse and pretend that posting the personal information of the officer and his family couldn't meet the bar for intimidation or harassment.
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#8One of the subpoenas was about PopeHat, who of course is public, and he wrote about it on his blog. Why demand twitter unmask a public account?
Re: DOJ Subpoenas Twitter About Five Users Over a Smiley Emoji Tweet
#9So a security researcher who was angry about getting raided and hit with a CFAA accusation after an unauthorized access of private medical data started doxxing the FBI agent responsible on Twitter. And in response the FBI is requesting information about the Twitter users that were part of the conversation. Doesn't seem quite as sensational once you know the backstory. The author is right that the charges aren't the s…
"unauthorized access" is bs. It was a public ftp server and he notified the owners. It's like telling your neighbor his door is open.
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#10I can't even anymore. If this story is anywhere near true -- and I have no reason to believe it is not -- then what the hell do we as citizens DO about it? How can we put an end to ridiculous infringements on rights and wasteful use of resources? It certainly starts with voting for representatives that won't allow thus, but damn. There aren't a lot of good choices out there. And even if there are, how do we fix the i…
The problem isn't the government, it's the "citizens." We're a society of cowards, who are afraid of everything and want the government to do something about it. E.g. crime rates are at historic lows, but more than half of Americans say that they worry a "great deal" about crime: http://news.gallup.com/poll/190475/americans-concern-crime-c... . It's not getting any better, it's probably getting worse. We're not that…
>We're a society of cowards, who are afraid of everything and want the government to do something about it. E.g. crime rates are at historic lows, but more than half of Americans say that they worry a "great deal" about crime:
That's not a contradiction. You can have a situation where people have to deploy numerous countermeasures[1] to head off crime, and where criminals pounce if any of these aren't active, but where the aggregate effect is to keep crime at bay. In that case, crime warrants being worried about, even if the rate is low.
You might as well say it's irrational to "worry a great deal about crime" in Brazil "because you can just stay in your gated enclave, what's the problem?"
[1] Locking your possessions, carrying little of value, traveling in groups, steering clear of strangers, living far out in suburbia where it's inconvenient for crime to reach, preventing buses (disproportionately used by the poor and criminal) from having stops near your home, etc.