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Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by opportune »

readhn wrote: post #56
mabbo wrote: post #50

It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible ------- when Leonardo da vinci sketched out a parachute or a helicopter-looking self propelling device prototypes that took 500 years to actually build - what did contemporaries think of him? who are we to judge a great mind? we simply cant. yes he might have gone mad, but there is a very…

Even geniuses can suffer from alzheimers, schizophrenia, personality disorders, delusions, etc. just like the rest of us. Sure there's the stereotypical eccentric genius, but if someone starts making wild unproven claims coupled with increasingly strange behavior, that doesn't seem exactly like something a genius would do. That sounds like a very intelligent person suffering from mental illness. From wikipedia:

>At the 1932 occasion, Tesla claimed he had invented a motor that would run on cosmic rays.[205] In 1933, at age 77, Tesla told reporters that, after thirty-five years of work, he was on the verge of producing proof of a new form of energy. He claimed it was a theory of energy that was “violently opposed” to Einsteinian physics, and could be tapped with an apparatus that would be cheap to run and last 500 years. He also told reporters he was working on a way to transmit individualized private radio wavelengths, working on breakthroughs in metallurgy, and developing a way to photograph the retina to record thought.

We know that cosmic rays aren't prevalent enough to produce energy. It should be obvious that you can't record thought through a retina because the majority of thought in the brain occurs in areas obstructed by the retina. He was just an already-eccentric old man whose brain was breaking down, and in trying to cling onto his success from the past he might have developed delusions that to him seem perfectly logical. I don't see why we can't accept that the death ray idea was just as nonexistent/nonsensical as these other ones. Additionally, also from wikipedia:

>In a box purported to contain a part of Tesla's "death ray", Trump found a 45-year-old multidecade resistance box.

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by korzun »

cr0sh wrote: post #91
baobrien wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ockham's razor, maybe? Mental illness is a thing we have observed; magic 10 dimensional eyeballs aren't.

But is it really that far-fetched? I mean, I don't think Tesla was some kind of super-wizard or anything; extremely intelligent and precient on certain things, lacking in other areas (it's interesting to compare and contrast Tesla and Edison, for instance - but that's OT). But how often have we heard of, or read about, people able to come up with solutions to, say, complex mathematical problems, seemingly in their he…

Just posting to tell you that I agree with you. People are quick to disregard something.

I had an outer of body experience that felt like the brain really didn't have control of the body. It felt like your actions are an illusion because they are already in the script. You are just reading them and think that it's you who is is in control.

I think a quick write off prevents a large majority of people with 'wierd' experiences from coming forward. Basicly, an organic suppressor. Go figure.

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by King-Aaron »

jstarfish wrote: post #83
nulagrithom wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So we should take the word of a random "author" who didn't even bother to publish his name and credentials over Inman simply because this guy blasted Inman for being a Millennial? That's just as wrong as accepting some dumb comic as the authority on history. This guy, whoever he is, goes on about "crap on the Internet" then cites a 3rd of his sources from the Internet, four of those being Wikipedia. Even better, half…

> So we should take the word of a random "author" who didn't even bother to publish his name and credentials over Inman simply because this guy blasted Inman for being a Millennial? No. I'm not saying anyone should "just" believe either party over the other. For all of Inman's bold assertions, he cites no sources whatsoever-- not even random crap on the internet-- and ends his comic with an appeal to vandalize Wikipe…

> I agree with ETC's assertion that Inman isn't qualified to be publishing unsubstantiated claims about anything related to a dead man's character or accomplishments.

He's an entertainer and comedian, not a bastion for everlasting factual histories of the world...

I seriously feel that a large percentage of commenters on HN need to step back a bit and be less rigid in their assessment of society around them.

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by danmaz74 »

readhn wrote: post #56
mabbo wrote: post #50

It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible ------- when Leonardo da vinci sketched out a parachute or a helicopter-looking self propelling device prototypes that took 500 years to actually build - what did contemporaries think of him? who are we to judge a great mind? we simply cant. yes he might have gone mad, but there is a very…

But Leonardo, AFAIK, didn't claim that those things were readily doable...

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by mabbo »

opportune wrote: post #111
readhn wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible ------- when Leonardo da vinci sketched out a parachute or a helicopter-looking self propelling device prototypes that took 500 years to actually build - what did contemporaries think of him? who are we to judge a great mind? we simply cant. yes he might have gone mad, but there is a very…

Even geniuses can suffer from alzheimers, schizophrenia, personality disorders, delusions, etc. just like the rest of us. Sure there's the stereotypical eccentric genius, but if someone starts making wild unproven claims coupled with increasingly strange behavior, that doesn't seem exactly like something a genius would do. That sounds like a very intelligent person suffering from mental illness. From wikipedia: >At t…

> in trying to cling onto his success from the past he might have developed delusions that to him seem perfectly logical

Scary thing? Delusional behavior can just happen to anyone. It's a mental illness and like any illness there may be no way to see it coming. One day, you suddenly think your 'Real Girl' doll is a real person that you love[0].

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_and_the_Real_Girl - Fantastic, true acting by an actor known mostly for his good looks.

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by jmcdiesel »

dmix wrote: post #37
neves wrote: post #22

249 pages! Other comments said that it was released a year ago. Can someone write about the juicy stuff?

The stamp on the papers say it was marked unclassified in 1980-82, which would have been ~40yrs after most of the papers dates (and his death). Was it really only released a year ago?

Just because it was unclassified doesn't mean it was released...

Im sure there are literally millions of documents that have been "unclassified" due to time, but have never seen the light of day since then. Its not like they broadcast when something is unclassified

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by readhn »

opportune wrote: post #111
readhn wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible ------- when Leonardo da vinci sketched out a parachute or a helicopter-looking self propelling device prototypes that took 500 years to actually build - what did contemporaries think of him? who are we to judge a great mind? we simply cant. yes he might have gone mad, but there is a very…

Even geniuses can suffer from alzheimers, schizophrenia, personality disorders, delusions, etc. just like the rest of us. Sure there's the stereotypical eccentric genius, but if someone starts making wild unproven claims coupled with increasingly strange behavior, that doesn't seem exactly like something a genius would do. That sounds like a very intelligent person suffering from mental illness. From wikipedia: >At t…

there was a lot of interest in his work. we simply dont know if something was taken, stolen or appropriated by someone else.

FBI clearly stated in that FIA disclosed dossier that there was an outside entity trying to get access to his lab prototypes, papers, information. We do not know if and what was taken,

Re: Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Post by ivcha »

qxzw wrote: post #6

Another Croatian - Serbian conflict regarding his ancestry in 5,4,3 ... Kidding aside, what would people like him achieve if they had resources of today, computers and internet...

there's no conflict there (not that it's too relevant, but his ancestry is quite clear)... I guess there will always be people who like creating conflicts :)
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