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Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by dandare »

As others pointed out this study may not be scientifically conclusive and I am not in a position to comment on that.

What strikes me is our lack of preparedness for advances is anti-aging treatments that will inevitably come. Even adding as little as 20 years to the average lifespan will have enormous (devastating?) implications for the economy and society. Especially if the treatment will be expensive and not available universally.

I keep hearing about the urgency to focus on research in the safety of AI, but I have not noticed any urgency regarding the consequences of anti-aging medicine.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by yoz-y »

m3nu wrote: post #12
faltad wrote: post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Let's hope he's right. Life is a cycle and without death the world will be a very boring place.

Well, on the anti-death side: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C25qzDhGLx8

On the pro death side I think the book Risen Empire has quite interesting take on that as well.

Edit: Put in the wrong link to a 24hour long video, fixed now

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by keymone »

hohenheim wrote: post #19
keymone wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

A better way to put is that, without death we wouldn't have progressed as a race as much as we have done. We need new people with fresh ideas to come to top, take higher roles and make radical decisions. People living longer will stay in power longer and keep the status quo alive. In a longer stretch, conservationism, which grows like age, is an impediment for innovation and progress, IMHO.

could you consider the notion, that all the progress and innovation impediments you link to age-related conservatism are actually at least partly related to the disease of aging itself? how would that change your opinion?

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by timthelion »

keymone wrote: post #14
m3nu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's hope he's right. Life is a cycle and without death the world will be a very boring place.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by hacker_9 »

dandare wrote: post #21

As others pointed out this study may not be scientifically conclusive and I am not in a position to comment on that. What strikes me is our lack of preparedness for advances is anti-aging treatments that will inevitably come. Even adding as little as 20 years to the average lifespan will have enormous (devastating?) implications for the economy and society. Especially if the treatment will be expensive and not availa…

> I have not noticed any urgency regarding the consequences of anti-aging medicine.

Because that medicine is usually a hoax of some sort. Saying that, people are living longer and longer, and changes are being made to prepare for that. More people = more houses and jobs. In the UK having a pension is mandatory now etc

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by top256 »

timthelion wrote: post #24
keymone wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

Imagine a world in which Xi, Kim Jong *, and a host of other wealthy dictators were immortal, and the rest of us pee-ons were not. I believe that is the future of high tech immortality.

kind of Warhammer 40K?

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by pravbeatle »

faltad wrote: post #10

This comment on reddit (and all the subchildren) shines a different light on that study: https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/78f3wg/antiaging_s...

Death as important as Birth when it comes to life.

We only want to keep living because of sentience.

If you really cared about humanity, you wouldn't impede death.

It would lead to serious fragmentation of the human population with people from generations ago still alive.

Not to mention the collapse of economic structures many of which are based on young v old generation.

Apart from that hundreds of generations competing for resources.

Not to mention everything around us evolving except humans.

Re: Anti-aging stem cell treatment proves successful in early human trials

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Post by hacker_9 »

hohenheim wrote: post #19
keymone wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you're welcome to die whenever you want, just don't speak for the rest of us.

A better way to put is that, without death we wouldn't have progressed as a race as much as we have done. We need new people with fresh ideas to come to top, take higher roles and make radical decisions. People living longer will stay in power longer and keep the status quo alive. In a longer stretch, conservationism, which grows like age, is an impediment for innovation and progress, IMHO.

This makes the assumption that life is simply about progressing the human species. Progression to what though? One should aim to lead a happy life, of which making things better for the next generation is a byproduct.
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