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Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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I probably own more Apple devices than most people here (even considering this is HN we're talking about) because I do a lot of iOS programming and I have to use them as test devices. I also own the latest devices. But this problem is not some stupid complaint coming from uninformed people. This calculator thing was a perfect symbolism for all this bullshit that's been going on since iOS 11 release because the bug is…

Was going to upgrade to an iPhone X. After this iOS 11 nonsense, I'm honestly considering going back to Android. It's absolutely unforgivable how terrible my iPhone 6S has been running since the update. Same as you: constant crashes, random freezes and reboots, abysmal battery life, not to mention an insane bug where when someone calls you (or you call them), they can't hear you and you can't hear them. This bug pers…

+1 on the silent call bug (and the others too).

Apple managed to make a smartphone unable to launch apps and make calls. Not sure if incompetence or malice. Regardless, I'm never looking back.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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post #285

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I wasn't complaining at all. I love iOS 11. Just wanted to give some input.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, this wasn't aimed at you at all, I just responded to yours because you mentioned timings on a same gen device as mine and it seems mine is significantly faster. As for the rest, it's just that the sarcastic, conspiracist, passive-aggressive tone of many of the sibling comments is unnerving.

What exactly my tone should be?

I bought a very expensive phone that was unable to launch apps (50% of the time, when it did, it took several seconds) and unable to make calls (the receiving end would be mute and would not hear what I was saying).

The phone was bought on an official apple store and had one day of use. Problems persisted for over a week. Tried all the possible solutions. The only one that worked was downgrading to 10.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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post #335

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You can still do this in at least some shells. PowerShell buffers input if the running program doesn't capture it. If I have a build and execute commands in the history, I can hit up-up-enter twice in a row to start the build and queue the execution command.

I remember people doing that on an AS/400 ramming keystrokes for 5 seconds and then waiting 15 seconds for the system to arrive in the right screen, sometimes even already filling the fields from muscle memory. The first five lines of address data were already entered before the screen loaded.

When I was in high school I had a job after school where they still had a PDP/11 w/real DEC VT-100 terminals. The kid next to me used to do data entry and would get far ahead of the input screen. Except when he made a mistake, and he often did, it would beep. But because he was so far ahead when he made a mistake it would beep for 2 minutes straight. Every time. Max-volume.

Soo.. When he left his desk, I went in and hit SHIFT-SETUP, turned the audible BEL off in the VT-100 setup menu and enjoyed the silence.

When I came back in the office the next day, there was a technician from Digital with the terminal in what looked like 100 pieces on the desk trying to "fix" it. He was pretty upset when he realized it wasn't the speaker and the setting was just turned off (why he didn't check that first, I'll never know). Needless to say as a teenager, I kept quiet about the whole thing.. until now..

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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As the thread says, I can confirm this bug, the answer: 24 :( iOS 11 must be the buggiest piece of s I've ever tried. Stuck animations, apps that take ages to load, widgets not working, more stuck animations, text overlapping everywhere. Related: Flat design was supposed to make things leaner... EDIT: Worst of all, every single operation is wrong: 7+8+9 = 96 4+5+6 = 60

I got 24 sometimes and 6 the other times. Possibly a race condition?

You type it the wrong way. Do not worry, Cook will explain how to type correctly.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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post #300

I probably own more Apple devices than most people here (even considering this is HN we're talking about) because I do a lot of iOS programming and I have to use them as test devices. I also own the latest devices. But this problem is not some stupid complaint coming from uninformed people. This calculator thing was a perfect symbolism for all this bullshit that's been going on since iOS 11 release because the bug is…

Was going to upgrade to an iPhone X. After this iOS 11 nonsense, I'm honestly considering going back to Android. It's absolutely unforgivable how terrible my iPhone 6S has been running since the update. Same as you: constant crashes, random freezes and reboots, abysmal battery life, not to mention an insane bug where when someone calls you (or you call them), they can't hear you and you can't hear them. This bug pers…

I'm in this boat, was excited about the X but after 11 and the confusing 8 vs X lineup, I'm just not sure what do anymore. At this point, it's a wait and see game

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Capacitive buttons are a plague, man. Even the cheap new stoves have them now. Monitors and TVs have had them for a while. Cars are going for touch displays. There's a delay, they don't work every time, and you can't feel them out. Are they cheaper? I don't understand the point of them in the cases where they're literally just replacing a real button. The worst is when they don't even indicate clearly where the butto…

I find them extremely practical on my induction stove: it's a single perfectly smooth glass surface, which makes it a joy to clean. Physical buttons (or any 3-D feature really) and food preparation make cleaning a hassle.

I prefer physical buttons, or better yet knobs I can remove and soak to clean. My range has capacitive buttons for its oven controls, and every time I wipe it down with a damp sponge every button is triggered along with a cacophony of beeps. It could disregard inputs when multiple are registered in quick succession, but then each button would have to have a delay before action to see if it was pressed individually, and of course rapid legitimate use would pose a problem (as in the iOS calculator issue).

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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post #38

The software quality of Apple products that I use has fallen significantly in the past few years. Updates slow down my phone, every single update, as well as introducing errors like this or where I double tap home to change applications and instead get a blur on the screen. Desktop OS updates have incrementally slowed down the computers, notably since Mavericks (and even earlier), so ever-slower desktops are actually…

I still use Mavericks for personal stuff. Ditched iOS for MIUI (more polished than iOS these days).

I know some people who refuse to go past Mavericks in their business. They perform video processing and streaming.

Thanks for letting me know about MIUI.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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My Samsung started dying unexpectedly at about 10% battery left. I bought another battery, popped the back cover and replaced it. For $10 it's as good as new.

It's unfortunate Samsung removed that option.

You can still buy Galaxy Note 4s. They are pretty good phones.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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>>Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray computers to better predict what I am going to type so that overall, my typing is more efficient and I'm actually spending less time typing... The typing on iOS 11 in all apps is absolutely abysmal. What the hell is going on?

> What the hell is going on? The same that has happened for every iOS .0 release for YEARS. They focus on showstoppers (P1) only then focus on usability (P2) during the next year's worth of point releases. Then iOS 12 will come along and the process repeats.

For .0 releases they’re furiously coding against a daunting fixed deadline. For .0.1 warranty releases, lingering showstoppers. The .1 releases get all the care. If I were smart, I’d wait around for dot-ones and eat my broccoli.

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Are you a programmer? If so, is not getting yelled at what motivates you to write good software?

Define "getting yelled at". Nobody is defending management which abuses employees for failing to meet quality standards. But yelling at employees is not the only way to indicate disapproval of work which does not meet quality standards, and the fact that Apple has not been maintaining quality standards is a black stain on current management that Steve Jobs never would have allowed in his company. Apple shouldn't mode…

Apple software has been buggy since they invented the freaking bomb icon.
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