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Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by brryant »

yladiz wrote: post #13
gfodor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually don't post seemingly pedantic comments on HN, but I have to call you out here. You guys are blocking users from using your application in Firefox because of scrollbar colors? That seems like a terrible choice given it is probably alienating a good chunk of potential users.

On that note, can a screenshot be provided in Firefox with the Webflow designer, provided the code functions? If it's really just a scrollbar issue, and the UI is that bad according to the Bugzilla comment, can we see how it looks?

Here's a little screen capture of what Webflow looks like in Firefox https://cl.ly/3J0c2v2Y093O — the scrollbar causes quite a few issues with layout, but also we have to take into account the fact it's also a different width, which doesn't play nicely with drag 'n drop.

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by scandox »

iamdustan wrote: post #17
gfodor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually don't post seemingly pedantic comments on HN, but I have to call you out here. You guys are blocking users from using your application in Firefox because of scrollbar colors? That seems like a terrible choice given it is probably alienating a good chunk of potential users.

What would HN be without pedanticism? ‍️¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We’re also more than just “guys”.

Well people: it's "pedantry" and you ought to support Firefox without people voting on a roadmap. I mean I feel an Ed Reardon scale rant coming on...but no...gone.

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by iamdustan »

iamdustan wrote: post #17
gfodor wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually don't post seemingly pedantic comments on HN, but I have to call you out here. You guys are blocking users from using your application in Firefox because of scrollbar colors? That seems like a terrible choice given it is probably alienating a good chunk of potential users.

What would HN be without pedanticism? ‍️¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We’re also more than just “guys”.

(ﾟヮﾟ)

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by DanBC »

scandox wrote: post #22
iamdustan wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would HN be without pedanticism? ‍️¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We’re also more than just “guys”.

Well people: it's "pedantry" and you ought to support Firefox without people voting on a roadmap. I mean I feel an Ed Reardon scale rant coming on...but no...gone.

most people aren't going to get the ed reardon reference.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006r5ck

the full series is available from the usual places.

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by Jasper_ »

alooPotato wrote: post #11

Nice launch! One thing is that the page here: https://webflow.com/interactions-animations is pretty janky on scroll on my top of the line macbook pro. My guess is its because there are a lot of animations being demo'd which probably wouldn't happen on a real site. But just a heads up.

From a quick look in the Performance tab, there seems to be an expensive path in "bugsnag", an error reporting tool, on every scroll and mousemove.

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by leonardsouza »

alooPotato wrote: post #20
leonardsouza wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, yladiz! I'm the tech lead on IX2. Are you using Safari by chance? The part after WORLD WIDE WEB is a known issue and we are working on it, but it works smoothly in Chrome (if you could give it a try). We are also looking at how we can best cull off-screen animations to minimize CPU usage. Thank you for the great feedback! Best, Leonard

Using chrome on a brand new macbook pro and scroll is a little janky everywhere on page.

Which site are you experiencing the jank? https://webflow.com/interactions-animations or http://webflow.com/ix2

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by yladiz »

leonardsouza wrote: post #16
yladiz wrote: post #12

This page loaded quickly for the amount of stuff it has on it, but it scrolls slowly in some parts (and really slowly in one, the part after WORLD WIDE WEB, with the CERN Welcome screens). It also pegs my CPU the entire time. I assume this is due to some of the animations happening constantly throughout the page, even when things are not on screen, since this happens with constantly running CSS transitions on any web…

Hey, yladiz! I'm the tech lead on IX2. Are you using Safari by chance? The part after WORLD WIDE WEB is a known issue and we are working on it, but it works smoothly in Chrome (if you could give it a try). We are also looking at how we can best cull off-screen animations to minimize CPU usage. Thank you for the great feedback! Best, Leonard

In that case I'm a little confused. If you're showcasing this new technology but it only works well in one browser or has issues in other browsers (Safari lags and Firefox has some issues as well, not sure about Edge), why not wait until it's more ready in the others before showcasing it, especially if you're creating a new version? It doesn't have to be perfect, but if this is your showcase and it only works well in one browser (and it doesn't say this in the page), it looks kind of bad in my opinion. I thought we were beyond the "Works well in Chrome" phase of web design...

I'm not critiquing the actual page, which I think is really slick and well designed, just the process for creating this new technology and forcing customers to deal with this issue implicitly if they use certain animations.

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by alooPotato »

leonardsouza wrote: post #26
alooPotato wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using chrome on a brand new macbook pro and scroll is a little janky everywhere on page.

Which site are you experiencing the jank? https://webflow.com/interactions-animations or http://webflow.com/ix2

Sorry this one: https://webflow.com/interactions-animations

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by biocomputation »

brryant wrote: post #19
porker wrote: post #9

WebPageTest.org result: https://www.webpagetest.org/result/171024_AW_97ca0329c0a7e7d... I am impressed how fast it loads, despite it being over 3.5MB.

Hey there, Webflow CTO here. We take performance seriously here so I'm secretly in glee to see users notice this. It's a similar stack we use for Webflow hosting: https://webflow.com/hosting A few things on this page that make this site fast: - Responsive Images created for you as your build your site ( https://webflow.com/feature/responsive-images ) - HTTP2 wherever possible - Fastly for initial HTML document for su…

Neat tool - and a lot of hard, careful work no doubt.

In one of your articles, you say that your product isn't a 'grandma web site builder' or something to that effect. Any chance you could, in the future, perhaps use different language? Maybe something a little less derogatory to older folks?

I totally get that it wasn't your intent!

Re: Webflow – Interactions 2.0

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Post by DonHopkins »

brryant wrote: post #19
porker wrote: post #9

WebPageTest.org result: https://www.webpagetest.org/result/171024_AW_97ca0329c0a7e7d... I am impressed how fast it loads, despite it being over 3.5MB.

Hey there, Webflow CTO here. We take performance seriously here so I'm secretly in glee to see users notice this. It's a similar stack we use for Webflow hosting: https://webflow.com/hosting A few things on this page that make this site fast: - Responsive Images created for you as your build your site ( https://webflow.com/feature/responsive-images ) - HTTP2 wherever possible - Fastly for initial HTML document for su…

It is quite snappy, yes!
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