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Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by TYPE_FASTER »

late2part wrote: post #78
guelo wrote: post #71

Gmail on Android is such a shitty locked-down experience. Want to create an appointment from an email? Nope. Want to set a reminder about an email? Nope. Want to link to an email from a notes or other app? Nope. OK, well now maybe. If you become a "business partner" with them and shove your product into whatever grand strategery they're cooking up this quarter. It's sad to think how Android was envisioned as this ope…

Just Like Java (TM)? Google is the new Sun Microsystems?

Except Google figured out how to monetize the success. I knew it was bad when the JRE install started asking if I wanted to install search bars in my browser.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by olyjohn »

dannyr wrote: post #31
forgotmypw wrote: post #23

Sounds a lot like Gmail Labs, which was discontinued. I've learned to expect most Google products to be killed off, so I don't even bother starting to use them anymore.

You're right. If you don't count the services that still exists today, Google has killed almost all its products.

Is Gmail even their priority anymore? Didn't they come out with Inbox some time back? I always was under the impression that Inbox was going to replace Gmail, but never knew for sure.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by dawnbreez »

halfteatree wrote: post #65
oliwarner wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opt in isn't enough to stop it becoming a toilet. Years of Britney Spears Naked Screensavers and malware "removers" have taught us that users are idiots. You can net a bazillion users with one "unlimited space" add-on. Obviously, there's some vetting but that doesn't always work. These add-ons could run on Google's servers and only have connectivity to your inbox and session. Instead, this appears to allow companies…

> users are idiots Please, for the last time, stop using this rhetoric. How would you like to be called an idiot? As a developer and a user, I'm deeply offended by this condescending attitude. I really don't know what people like -- apparently opt-out is bad, so now we're using opt-in. Still, "opt-in" is bad because it's becoming a toilet? How do you expect _any_ platform to work? Self-host everything?

Referring to a duck as a swan does not make it any less a duck.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by detaro »

eridius wrote: post #80
bharath28 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly Google Now/Home uses gmail data to be relevant.

Ok, better question: Is Google using your email data for anything not explicitly authorized by and for the benefit of the user?

Have you explicitly authorized them to provide you search and mail-based information in Google Now?

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by eridius »

detaro wrote: post #85
eridius wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, better question: Is Google using your email data for anything not explicitly authorized by and for the benefit of the user?

Have you explicitly authorized them to provide you search and mail-based information in Google Now?

No idea, I don't use Google Now. I hope so, but it wouldn't surprise me if Google "forgot" about that step. But at least that's for the benefit of the user.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by shabble »

sigstoat wrote: post #47
dannyr wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. If you don't count the services that still exists today, Google has killed almost all its products.

it'd be amusing to do an actual survival analysis of google product lifetime, with right censoring and everything.

There's http://www.gwern.net/Google-shutdowns which it looks like gwern has been keeping updated, although it was a good while ago I last read through.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by dvirsky »

fareesh wrote: post #67
jypepin wrote: post #25

So, I started using inbox a while ago when it was announced and I love it. Really. What's the state of development of it? Doesn't seems to be moving much and a lot of features from gmail are still missing, and I continue to see dev happening on gmail and not on inbox. Should I be moving back to inbox?

Came to post this as well. Inbox is a great product, but it seems to have been forgotten - probably because most of the users still use gmail, since getting "normies" to switch to anything is near impossible without social pressure being some contributor to the switch. Plus, Gmail still has a ton of features that were never ported over, which will also prevent some advanced users who rely on these features consistent…

I really hope Google won't abandon Inbox and continue developing it, I'd really hate to go back to Gmail.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by kennysmoothx »

guelo wrote: post #71

Gmail on Android is such a shitty locked-down experience. Want to create an appointment from an email? Nope. Want to set a reminder about an email? Nope. Want to link to an email from a notes or other app? Nope. OK, well now maybe. If you become a "business partner" with them and shove your product into whatever grand strategery they're cooking up this quarter. It's sad to think how Android was envisioned as this ope…

You can't even have an HTML signature on Gmail for Android.

Something so trivial missing from Google's main email client.

Re: Gmail Launches Add-ons

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Post by DerfNet »

icebraining wrote: post #40
fortythirteen wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they "no longer scan Gmail for advertising ", or do they no longer scan Gmail?

I'm sure they scan it, otherwise it'd be hard to catch spam. I don't think they ever said they scanned it for any other reason.

They explicitly used to scan emails for advertising purposes:

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/google-reading-personal-email...

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