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Freedom of Information Release on Nikola Tesla (2011)

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Very few children of billionaires become notable people themselves, outside of usually philanthropy or keeping the family business in much of it's original state (millionaires kids as well to a much lesser degree). There are some very clear human and biological reasons why. Even in the tech industry with hyper progressive parenting it's rare to hear about the kids outside of capital raising circles. Regardless I was…

> "Very few children of billionaires become notable people themselves" First, billionaires represent an extremely small minority of the human population. And second, notable people also represent a small minority of the human population. So it seems reasonable that there are few notable children of billionaires, and this alone doesn't imply that billionaire offspring are less likely to be notable than the person. It…

Yes, that's exactly what dmix is implying by "very clear human and biological reasons why" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean.

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Everytime i read something about Nikola Tesla, i go back reading: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla

Please don't get your history from The Oatmeal. If you want to read a real account of what Edison actually did, the opening chapters of this classic are great: https://www.amazon.com/Networks-Power-Electrification-1880-1...

I don't consider it a fact, but a fun read :)

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> Mr. Inman [author of The Oatmeal], like many comedians seems to be fundamentally unhappy and finds an outlet through humor. Oddly enough his behavior is similar to Tesla's in that he reacts in a nasty fashion if someone challenges his ideas Yikes, got a less biased source? It's 2017, it's sad the emotional feud between Tesla and Edison continues like this.

You're cherrypicking the part of the document that addresses the comic and I do agree the tone could be more professional, but it a fairly serious rebuke of some pretty terrible claims. Ironically, when Hawkings, Linus, Dawkins, Hitchens, etc use the same tone, the tech community seems to not have any problems with it. The factual aspects of this page are pretty good and I'm hard pressed to find any issue here histor…

> A cartoonist (a guy with no engineering, legal or historian background) born in 1982 on the wrong side of the continent

> cynical style typically demonstrated by the worst of US-born Millennials

> Disclaimer: The works below are the opinion of the author and not the official viewpoint of the Edison Tech Center

That's enough for me to forget this whole article. I'm not buying all the "facts" in The Oatmeal's comic either, but wow, when you have to lash out at someone for being a young cartoonist living in Seattle...

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It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

>It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness.

Not just towards the end of his life, he likely had mental issues throughout his entire life. He himself reported experiencing incidents of hallucinations/strange visions of light, and had a number of very strange and exact habits that sound like some kind of OCD (including an extreme aversion to women wearing pearl jewelry of any kind).

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It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible ------- when Leonardo da vinci sketched out a parachute or a helicopter-looking self propelling device prototypes that took 500 years to actually build - what did contemporaries think of him? who are we to judge a great mind? we simply cant. yes he might have gone mad, but there is a very…

he was genius, but also properly crazy (at least at the end of his life). falling in love with a pigeon, pearl detestion, obsession with nr 3 etc.

this is not about not being appreciated at the given time. unless you think in 500 years it will be fashionable "to love that pigeon as a man loves a woman, and she loved me. As long as I had her, there was a purpose to my life."

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It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

History is written by the victors.

Tesla's lab was burned down several times, the newspapers would publish whatever the banks told them to.

Everyone who dealt with Tesla on a personal level said he as absolutely normal.

But on the streets they spread rumours that he had sex with a pigeon, that he was crazy and you are replicating and perpetuating those lies 100 years later.

It is very easy to spread lies about people in this day. Can you imagine how easy it was 100+ years ago when you are fighting the biggest powers of the time? (Who by the way remain the biggest powers of today, the only entities a capitalist nation will bail out when they go bankrupt.)

Read Tesla's works. His English is perfect, his logical reasoning is impeccable, his thought process is brilliant.

Tesla was not crazy at all. He simply fought against the biggest powers that be and lost.

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> Exhibit M. Part 03 of 03 pg. 43. The article further discusses the subject of wind, tides, lightning, and water power as a source of commercial energy. The last sentence of this memorandum states: "With my wireless system, it is practicable to transmit electrical energy at a distance of twelve thousand miles with a loss not exceeding 5 per cent. I can conceive of no advances which would be more desirable at this ti…

Well the level of conspiracy claimed would never be publicized by the FBI.

IF any of the wildest theories on Tesla are true, then his files would be hidden in places FOIA will never reach.

These documents are probably meant to discredit conspiracy theories.

There might be some truth to some conspiracies, and people will release "noise" in order to discredit them completely.

We all know Tesla went against powerful financial interests, and they paid back real good, destroying his reputation using the dirtiest character assassination tactics there are, involving sex.

Note that sexual character assassination is the favorite method of discrediting someone.

The false rape accusation against Assange should be a reminder that we still live under the same boots that stepped on Tesla 100+ years ago. Back then they spread all sorts of nasty sexual rumours against Tesla. We haven't evolved very much 100+ years later, and we're still bailing out banks.

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It's important to keep in mind that near the end of his days, Tesla sure seemed to be experiencing some mental illness. He made wild claims that were never quite backed up by proof, claims that even now no one seems to believe were actually possible. It's a sad end to a brilliant mind. But then, when you're the FBI and WW2 is ongoing, you pay attention when a famous and brilliant inventor claims to have death rays an…

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I like the oatmeal, but that comic is just a collection of urban myths about Tesla. http://edisontechcenter.org/tesladebunked.html

While all of that may be absolutely true, the title of the group of that source doesn't instill confidence as unbiased historians. It makes me wonder if they're promoting team edison. Can anyone recommend a better source?

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