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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by 72deluxe »

epistasis wrote: post #21

Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

Note that under Android developer options, you can change the window animation scale and other animation scales to shorten/lengthen animations; no need to root.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by pdpi »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

I commented to the same effect on reddit: This doesn't ring true to me at all.

The numbers have the same animation, but it's both shorter and interruptible, so the people who built the app seem perfectly aware of the problem and how to "fix it".

This seems deliberate, as if somebody figured that, while it's a legitimate use case to rapidly tap digits to input a longer number, tapping an operator multiple times is likelier to be an input error, so they purposefully block it. Clearly a mis-feature, but a feature nonetheless, rather than a bug.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by krisdol »

smt88 wrote: post #331
krapp wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe we should start worrying about "animation creep" as much as we do feature creep or other kinds of unnecessary complexity.

One of the main reasons I don't use iOS or macOS anymore is because of the animations. Even very, very short animations make the whole experience excruciating for me. It feels slow and unresponsive.

So what do you use instead? FYI you can reduce animation in the accessibility menu of both iOS and OSX

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by whipoodle »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #228

Let's just be frank: If Jobs was in charge, everyone that remotely touched that app would pulled into a room, berated and told how fucking dumb they are, and told to pack their shit and find another job. Remember, he was obsessive about the first calculator app and hand-tuned it to his liking, so it's not hyperbole to suggest that he would be fucking livvid. [1] Asshole, but perfection requires assholes. Apple is reg…

Steve Jobs died in 2011. Let it go.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by Tehnix »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #299
Tehnix wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. That was actually recently debunked by Futuremark https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iph... . Important excerpts found at the bottom of the page: > Our benchmarking data shows that, ra…

What is debunked? That the CPU has not changed during the upgrade? No shit sherlock. Synthetic benchmarks tell nothing of the end-user experience. Does Apple sprinkle wait()? No. Does the system become more and more complex and Apple taking less time to optimize because it runs “fine” on the [latest - 1] hardware? Yes.

> What is debunked?

I'll help you a bit.

> > [...] Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more

From the article

> Are older iPhones being deliberately slowed? [...] maintain a consistent level of performance across iOS versions

Sure, as you snarkily remark, your CPU/GPU hasn't changed, but neither has the iOS version inherently made your phone slower. Apps on the other hand might be assuming more power nowadays, but that is a whole other question... Or, you could also just have read the end of my comment...

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by kagamine »

ship_it wrote: post #256
kagamine wrote: post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just tried this on my iPhone 4 (yes 4!, iOS 7.?) and I get 4 when adding 1+2+3 quickly, and sometimes 10 or 11(!?). Looks like this is a feature, not a bug, or else it would have been fixed sometime in the last 8 years! /s

Is 4 your daily? I miss my 4S and I'd replace current 6S with it but if I could bring performances. Beautiful phone.

I have a newer iPhone through work, so my 4 is only used for calls, sms and music. I'm keeping it until it dies and then moving away from Apple. What I really want is a true GNU/Linux phone.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by ekzy »

dvt wrote: post #300
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #294

I probably own more Apple devices than most people here (even considering this is HN we're talking about) because I do a lot of iOS programming and I have to use them as test devices. I also own the latest devices. But this problem is not some stupid complaint coming from uninformed people. This calculator thing was a perfect symbolism for all this bullshit that's been going on since iOS 11 release because the bug is…

Was going to upgrade to an iPhone X. After this iOS 11 nonsense, I'm honestly considering going back to Android. It's absolutely unforgivable how terrible my iPhone 6S has been running since the update. Same as you: constant crashes, random freezes and reboots, abysmal battery life, not to mention an insane bug where when someone calls you (or you call them), they can't hear you and you can't hear them. This bug pers…

Same here. My 6S quite often freezes. I also sometimes have a network problem that I never had before, no internet connection at all even when I have a full 4G signal, and I have to reboot the phone. Does anyone else experience this issue?

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by jonandersense »

patwolf wrote: post #339

Another UX issue I've seen with the iPhone calculator: My wife is a nurse and uses the iPhone calculator to calculate doses. She performed a calculation like 2.25 / 1.5 = It did give the correct answer of 1.5 . However, there was no animation or blanking out of the display to easily distinguish between the operand of 1.5 and the result of 1.5. She thought it was a bug and wasn't giving her an answer. I always thought…

I just tested this and it does animate (a brief flash). This is on iOS 11, so maybe you have a different version?

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by krisdol »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #294

I probably own more Apple devices than most people here (even considering this is HN we're talking about) because I do a lot of iOS programming and I have to use them as test devices. I also own the latest devices. But this problem is not some stupid complaint coming from uninformed people. This calculator thing was a perfect symbolism for all this bullshit that's been going on since iOS 11 release because the bug is…

I’ve been having the same experience with iOS 11. I often open the phone app to call someone I recently talked to, see their name at the top, click it to call them, only for the phone to call someone else. What’s happening is that someone else had called me in the meantime and iOS showed me the cached image of the screen but registered my touch on the “real”/live view of the screen. Safari does the same thing on both iOS and OSX when you swipe back and interact with the page, and I’m sad to be seeing that behavior leak elsewhere. Super frustrating.

Also, the amount of lag when loading basic apps has increased significantly with this update (I have an iPhone 6s).

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by dep_b »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #304
zimpenfish wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have the latest iOS installed If you mean one of the developer betas then that's the cause of ... > [apps take a long time to load]

No, i have tried all versions and currently have the public version. I have given up on developer betas already, I don't trust them anymore. But I expected public OS to work as expected. So no, the developer beta is not the cause. It happens to me and a lot of my "normal" friends who just upgraded their iOS because it kept bothering them with push notification to upgrade.

With iOS 11 at this moment the developer betas are better than the released alphas.
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