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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by submeta »

hedora wrote: post #166
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

It takes 14 sec to open maps and load a screen of tiles, 4 sec to open messenger on a my 6 plus. I’d love to see timings for this on the newer models. Also, I swear the rear-facing camera has lower color saturation and higher sensoe noise after the upgrade. I’d love to see A-B camera tests for iOS 10 and 11 on old hardware.

Opening iMessage on a 6s Plus running iOS 11.0.3: Two seconds

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by Tehnix »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

> My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade.

That was actually recently debunked by Futuremark https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iph....

Important excerpts found at the bottom of the page:

> Our benchmarking data shows that, rather than intentionally degrading the performance of older models, Apple actually does a good job of supporting its older devices with regular updates that maintain a consistent level of performance across iOS versions.

and

> That said, there are some factors that might affect people's perception of performance after updating an older device with a newer version of iOS. An update might add new features that use more resources or require more processing power. New apps developed for the latest models might not run as smoothly on older devices. Conversely, apps designed for an earlier version of iOS might not take full advantage of optimizations in the latest version. And then there is always the psychological effect of knowing that there is a new and improved model available, which can make your own device seem outdated.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by sah2ed »

sogen wrote: post #2

As the thread says, I can confirm this bug, the answer: 24 :( iOS 11 must be the buggiest piece of s I've ever tried. Stuck animations, apps that take ages to load, widgets not working, more stuck animations, text overlapping everywhere. Related: Flat design was supposed to make things leaner... EDIT: Worst of all, every single operation is wrong: 7+8+9 = 96 4+5+6 = 60

I'm able to reproduce the bug on iOS 10.3.3 on an iPhone 6 so it appears the bug has existed before iOS 11.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by Tehnix »

AVTizzle wrote: post #99
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

>>As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. THIS! My exact experience and sentiment. The lag frustrates me every time I open almost any app (and then I get frustrated with myself for letting myself succumb to such a first-world-problem) Is there any recourse? Can we disable some animations or other unnecessary features in settings? Can…

You can disable animations in Accessibility settings along with other things. Check it out!

EDIT: Should probably mention it's called Reduce Motion.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by dx034 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #164
teej wrote: post #55

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I hate to be this guy but Steve Jobs would have fucking eviscerated the team that produced this. The first time he used the calculator and got 24 instead of 6, he would’ve walked straight to whoever wrote the software and gotten it fixed. There’s no one at Apple who can do that anymore.

> I hate to be this guy but Steve Jobs would have fucking eviscerated the team that produced this. I'm pretty sure the very similar numeric spinner issue on iOS has been around since Jobs was alive and running the show, so the idea that he would have reacted swiftly and decisively to an issue like this is not merely unverifiable speculation, but contrary to what (inconclusive, to be sure) evidence is available.

The numeric spinner issue is much less severe. Calculators are often used in higher speed for a lot of calculations. That bug makes the calculator unusable for many people. The spinner is not used that often and waiting for an extra second there doesn't add up as much time.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by Tehnix »

epistasis wrote: post #21

Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

You can disable animations in Accessibility settings (called Reduce Motion), but I still notice a slight delay on pressing my Home button and it actually doing the action for it :(

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by jmiserez »

flukus wrote: post #162
scrollaway wrote: post #139

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Can confirm. I run W10 on my gaming machine, which still has a spinning drive. I cannot believe how frustrated I get every single time I use it. An operation as simple as opening the Windows menu and searching for an app can take up to 20 seconds. What a waste of time.

I think there's some network access in there too. When I was tethering to my phone on public transport (where the connection drops out periodically) I've had the windows menu freeze for a minute (or whatever the timeout is). I moved back to linux for a computer where basic things like this would work reliably. A good move for the most part, but for some reason the calculator in gnome doesn't do anything when you hit…

Enter used to work in the GNOME calculator.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by notatoad »

kemayo wrote: post #53

People are talking about "lag" and performance, as if this was a "the system can't handle it!" issue. This is a misleading description. The actual issue is that some developer at Apple screwed up their animation configuration when implementing the calculator redesign, and nobody tested adding more than two numbers together quickly. Multiple failures, none involving system performance. What's happening is: the operato…

>Conveniently, this should be a trivial fix

trivial to fix the bug in the calculator app. not trivial to deploy that fix. this would be a full system update, right?

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Post by mc32 »

ccozan wrote: post #176
mc32 wrote: post #110

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They still make dial microwaves, I got one, I think it's a Pana --but unlike the previous one I had (don't recall the make) once set, you can't readjust time. Either terrible design, or maybe a patent preventing the adding of time while the microwaving continues. For example, if It think that instead of 30 secs, I want to readjust it to 40 when it's down to 20 to make a total of 50, I have to wait till it winds all t…

I don't think is a patent ( maybe it was ). I have a relatively new one, german made, that works exactly like that: two knobs, one for setting the power and one for setting the time. Both are on the fly adjustable, both power and time. I find it really good design.

That's good to hear. I miss my on-the-fly adjustable one. When it broke down, I looked but could not find a small one (<=.9fcu), so I went with a Pana that had a dial since I rather dislike the touchpad ones.

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Post by Apocryphon »

kalleboo wrote: post #137
itbeho wrote: post #61

Remember when Steve Jobs introduced Snow Leopard as a stability/maintenance release without much in the way of new shiny features? Maybe Apple can revisit that idea. Aside from bugs, don't even get me started on the giant fucking labels in the iOS 11 mail app telling me which folder I'm in....

That's what both El Capitan and High Sierra have been sold as on the Mac, so it's not as if Apple has forgotten the tactic. On iOS they have too much competition from Android to take a step back like that.

I always thought that iOS 10 was actually that. One of their high-profile features presented at WWDC 2016 was emoji in Messages. But my hunch was that 10 was a stealth stability release, as well as prepping for APFS in 10.3
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