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Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by microcolonel »

kirubakaran wrote: post #30
veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

I'm totally with you there. The HEPA air purifier that I just bought registers input on keyup instead of keydown. This makes you push harder on the buttons, which are just icons, not real buttons, and hence have no tactile feedback. On one hand this is too trivial a thing to be annoyed by, but they could've so easily made it work on keydown and it would've been better! It makes me go "why man, why!"

Does your air filter at least retain its state when unplugged? I take it for granted that if the hard dial on mine is set to an on position, it will be on in that position when I plug it in (or today, when the power comes back on from an outage).

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by kirubakaran »

Do people really need that kind of accuracy? Are you launching rockets or something? The answers are close enough for regular people and more importantly, the animation is beautiful. If you want such insane accuracy, perhaps you're not Apple's target market. /s

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by MBCook »

Larrikin wrote: post #9

This is the first version of iOS I have actually held off on installing on day one, simply because of all the problems Apple has had on macOS and previous versions of iOS. The last update my iPad 3 got basically killed it. Doesn't seem to be getting any better and I plan on holding off on updating for as long as I possibly can.

This is the first time I’ve ever had real battery life issues with an update. I’m really hoping 11.1 fixes it because otherwise this version is going to become infamous for its problems.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by microcolonel »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

Android (along with most Android applications) is profiled and tested on lower spec devices in a given year. If you buy a high-spec device this year, you could reasonably expect the system to become faster with updates rather than slower.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by shakna »

Nition wrote: post #25
veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

Capacitive buttons are a plague, man. Even the cheap new stoves have them now. Monitors and TVs have had them for a while. Cars are going for touch displays. There's a delay, they don't work every time, and you can't feel them out. Are they cheaper? I don't understand the point of them in the cases where they're literally just replacing a real button. The worst is when they don't even indicate clearly where the butto…

> Are they cheaper?

Not generally, by neither are they more expensive generally.

However, there's a large section of consumers that see that sort of thing and somehow assume it means the product is of higher quality, or that's what comes up in the marketing meetings I've had to sit through whilst advocating for mechanical switches.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by narrator »

gdulli wrote: post #20
11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

My first smartphone, an iPhone, slowed to a crawl after some OS update about 2 years in. It's the last piece of Apple hardware I ever bought. The 3 non-Apple smartphones I've bought since then were all perfectly usable after 2 years.

My Samsung started dying unexpectedly at about 10% battery left. I bought another battery, popped the back cover and replaced it. For $10 it's as good as new.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by alsetmusic »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #3

As soon as I upgraded my 6s to 11, I saw performance seriously degrade. It takes -seconds- to bring up the iMessage editor. My immediate thought was that Apple had liberally sprinkled wait() into the iOS 11 code base so that I'd feel like my ole A9 CPU just wasn't cutting it any more and I'd realize, as they do, it's time to upgrade. Or... maybe they are running every key stroke through the new Azure-enabled Cray com…

iOS releases typically get a nice performance boost on the x.1 release. I wish it wasn’t that way (I’d like better optimization at launch), but this has been true since at least iOS 4.

Edit: to respond to another comment elsewhere in this thread, Apple also tests on all of the supported hardware when prepping iOS.

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by kbenson »

colanderman wrote: post #35
epistasis wrote: post #21

Almost all of the animations on iOS are about 2x-3x as long as they should be. First off, they look terrible, the slooooooow change from one thing to another. Secondly, they severely impede usability because you have to wait wait wait for 1000ms here, 1000ms there, and another 1000ms there after every action. It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. Soooo pissed at slow animations. 500ms,…

> It's enough to make me want to give up privacy and switch to Android. It's sadly no better on the Android side of the fence either. How many times I've had to wait for the keyboard app to decide to load…

I think that might be dependent on the keyboard your flagship provider ships with, and some are better than others. Thankfully, you can switch out the keyboard handler. That is, Android suffers from similar problems, some sometimes Android's modularity and allowing for choices comes through to save you.

But still, the perverse incentives of Google make privacy a real question. Then again, if I was willing to put up or shut up, I would probably be running a de-googled AOSP based version of Android. :/

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by krastanov »

Nition wrote: post #25
veidr wrote: post #6

"Jony wants you to take time and appreciate the simplicity of the slowly dimming animations. Or we’re just using it wrong." Apple has lots of issues like this, in iOS and macOS, where they choose visual appeal over functionality, or where animation impedes usability. This is a pretty sad bug, though. My (very expensive, "high-end") Japanese induction stove has a similar issue. Its capacitive touch controls take just…

Capacitive buttons are a plague, man. Even the cheap new stoves have them now. Monitors and TVs have had them for a while. Cars are going for touch displays. There's a delay, they don't work every time, and you can't feel them out. Are they cheaper? I don't understand the point of them in the cases where they're literally just replacing a real button. The worst is when they don't even indicate clearly where the butto…

They certainly must be cheaper - no mechanical components, just a single wire (instead of two) connecting the pad to the micro-controller. And they are "fancy"/"futuristic".

My lab placed fancy touch-screens in the place of the light switches. Now turning the lights on or off takes at least 15 seconds but we get to pretend to be luxurious :(

Re: Try quickly typing 1+ 2 + 3 into the iOS 11 Calculator

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Post by microcolonel »

plainOldText wrote: post #34

I absolutely abhor the new Calculator app on the iOS 11. The old interface was way more elegant, the buttons were squares (and had a larger touch area), and it worked even when you typed fast. Sometimes I wonder why individuals working for these multibillion dollar companies, who affect the lives of millions of people, decide to change things for the worse. Imagine having spent all those hours overhauling the calcula…

I'm perpetually surprised that any competent software developer would go to work for a company that swears them to secrecy about almost everything they do. I can count how many developers employed at Apple I've had any contact with or seen a talk from on one hand.

I'm thinking maybe that has something to do with why their system software is riddled with shallow bugs that would be (should have been?) detected by casual at-the-desk testing.

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