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Tech Firms Seek Washington’s Prized Asset: Top-Secret Clearances

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Not true, you can hold a clearance and stay a dual citizen.

It depends...some organizations require dual citizens to renounce their foreign citizenship before they get their clearance.

From what I understand, the worst case is that they confiscate your other passport(s) to ensure that you do not enter or exit the US with a non-US passport. I could be wrong though.

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For those in this thread that are confused what the tech companies could be looking for with these cleared people, let me give you an example. I used to work for a company that ran DNS services for public utilities i.e. "critical infrastructure". Every week we would get a classified list of "bad" domains (usually domains that malware would phone home to) from a 3 letter agency and we would notify the utilities if we…

I think the article created a lot of the confusion. Having access to cleared people is important to companies primarily for winning lucrative government contracts. For example, if a 3 letter agency wants to implement a cloud service on an air-gapped intranet, or award a contract to implement social-media algorithms to suss out terrorist networks, they'll look to companies with that sort of expertise. But if those companies don't have a corps of cleared employees, they're out of the running. Having said that, having trustworthy employees (which a clearance implies, but does not guarantee) might be valuable to companies not dealing with classified information, but the article left out the real reason that companies are heavily invested in recruiting people with clearances.

Re: Tech Firms Seek Washington’s Prized Asset: Top-Secret Clearances

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The first link you have makes it sound like clearance does not transfer, unless I’m reading it wrong

Security clearances only apply to positions that fall under the purview of the federal government. Under the purview doesn't mean that you are employed directly by the US Government. Again, from the example, Snowden had a clearance from his previous employment. Yeah, it had to get transferred but he didn't have to get re-cleared all over again.

Ah ok. Thanks for explaining that to me.

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

Why would the US give a Top Secret clearance to an immigrant? edit - You can't immigrate to a country then expect to receive a Top Secret clearance regardless if it is the US or any other country. I don't suspect Russia will give me a clearance if I were to immigrate and find employment at a tech company. There would be a major national security incident waiting to happen.

If you're a naturalized citizen, you can get a clearance. Just be prepared to have a lot of rocks turned over

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Article is wrong if you had clearance you don't get to transfer it if you move to a civilian job is my understanding. So is there an equivalent to List X companies in the USA who are allowed put staff through clearance. And for TS clearance I doubt that any dual national other than those because of birth circumstances will be getting clearance any time soon which sucks for SV company employees who are immigrants

My understanding is that they actually exclude ALL dual nationals, even those whose citizenships were the result of birth circumstances, unless you are willing to formally renounce your second citizenship.

Depends on what country. If you're a dual citizen with China/Russia/hostile power, you'll probably be forced to renounce or be denied a clearance. Folks from allied countries (NATO) often don't have to renounce it; I believe they ask if you'd be willing to, but you don't have to do it unless they ask

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Not true, you can hold a clearance and stay a dual citizen.

It depends...some organizations require dual citizens to renounce their foreign citizenship before they get their clearance.

Not sure why the down vote. It does depend on the sponsor, which country you hold a dual citizenship with, and what level of clearance you are trying to obtain.

The below poster is incorrect. In order to move forward in the process in some cases you will need to formally renounce and physically destroy you foreign passport in front of your investigator.

I know that sounds bad, but keep in mind no one is forcing people to obtain a clearance.

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