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Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Post by nradov »

WalterSear wrote: post #416
tezzer wrote: post #385

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So I still won't be able to see my kids awake because of a 1.5 hour commute each way, but I'll be able to read the newspaper on the way to work? No thanks.

You do what you like. I'll arrive at work at 11 for my first meeting, having gotten a solid 1.5 hours of uninterrupted work done already, and be wrapping up any collaboration in order to return to my mobile cubicle by 4. Of course, I'll still be available via skype. The morning stand up may happen while everyone is leaving their driveway. Soon enough this new daily routine is going to be about as disruptive to produc…

You seem to think this is inevitable, but everything you described is highly speculative. There is no evidence that working habits will change as you predict. Plus a significant fraction of people find it impossible to work in cars due to motion sickness.

Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Post by linkregister »

duderific wrote: post #365
twobyfour wrote: post #106

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What about the low-paid hourly employees who make food, mop floors, and stand behind cash registers?

What they do is have multiple family members per household. It's not that unusual to see two or more families living in what would normally be a single family dwelling. Across the street from my old house in San Mateo (Silicon Valley mid-peninsula), there were what appeared to be a husband and wife, the wife's sister, a cousin, three or four children, the sister or cousin's live in boyfriend, and a renter, all in a t…

Yes, it is easy to tell these neighborhoods by the fact there is never an open street parking space. Often front yards are just paved driveway, fully-occupied.

Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Post by nradov »

nimbius wrote: post #16

Most of the bay area employees are divided into 3 categories from anecdotal experience: young rockstars that are willing to live in relative squalor for a chance to prove themselves, vested and moneyed elites (CEO's, presidents, VC funded overlords) who are so out of touch with the average employee its best they not show up to the office that frequently, and H1B visa recipients that endure the soul-crushing San Jose…

Very, very few young developers are actually "rockstars" in any meaningful sense. Most of them aren't actually very productive.

Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Post by linkregister »

johnbrodie wrote: post #172
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #37

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Yes, I think it’s a great place to be for a while at least. I’m 33, have been here over ten years (grew up nearby) and am still chugging along. The mindless commute through unending traffic to get to the same office day in and day out is slowly driving me a little mad (not really... I think) but I’m beginning to question if I want to stay here long term. Still, I’ve had amazing experiences here and this is a place of…

Cali is the only US state where lane splitting is legal. How many people with a long commute are riding motorcycles to work every day? The weather is great for it. Were I in the bay area, I'd be riding in every day. If not for the love of motorcycles, just to shorten my commute times.

I found my stress level keeping me from riding. It’s exhausting avoiding being killed by drivers who can’t see me or intentionally run me out of my lane.

Re: Bay Area hammered by loss of jobs: Lack of affordable housing strangles hiring

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Post by linkregister »

beatpanda wrote: post #289
nimbius wrote: post #16

Most of the bay area employees are divided into 3 categories from anecdotal experience: young rockstars that are willing to live in relative squalor for a chance to prove themselves, vested and moneyed elites (CEO's, presidents, VC funded overlords) who are so out of touch with the average employee its best they not show up to the office that frequently, and H1B visa recipients that endure the soul-crushing San Jose…

> Rising levels of increasingly aggressive homeless Citation needed. The most recent data on this disagrees with you.

I’m inclined to believe you. Can you share a source? Homeless populations move around the city in response to police, etc., so the total number can be completely opaque to the average city resident.

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Post by linkregister »

lisper wrote: post #542
linkregister wrote: post #524

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Nobody has recommended this straw man of a proposal. This is an example of an argument made in bad faith. The topic is development of single-story housing into apartments. The Bay Area is rife with short houses around transit terminals. You would have less traffic in the Valley if there were more apartments, so employees could bike and walk to work. They now commute from neighboring cities.

> You would have less traffic in the Valley if there were more apartments, so employees could bike and walk to work. This assumes that all of the houses vacated by currently commuting employees moving into apartments near transit (and thus becoming non-commuters) would be replaced by people who don't commute. But that's extremely unlikely to be the case. Furthermore, all of the people living near transit would still…

Traffic on the weekend? Sure, but that is distributed aside from the typical choke points on 101 and 880.

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Post by abritinthebay »

5706906c06c wrote: post #330
abritinthebay wrote: post #321

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If you are paying that much in rent you can afford a mortgage on a larger place that’s a reasonable commute to the city. Now it'll likely be a condo, not a single-family home (that'll be more, or further way, or not as nice) but it's doable for sure. Not in SF, but just outside (Oakland, Fremont, Daly City, etc) What you can get will depend on what you can wrangle as a deposit but there are plenty of options if you c…

I looked over 35th ave, which is fairly decent. Are there other pockets I should be looking at?

It's amazing what comes up. A lot depends on your deposit. If you can swing a total cost of ~$750-850k home price then you have a LOT of options in the East Bay.

There are some really nice places that show up in Rockridge that are reasonable and if you're ok with a little less nice of an area the NoBe area is good too. In Oakland you can do surprisingly well near Highway 13 in the foothills or nearish Mills College.

If you don't mind the commute (I would) then Pleasanton is affordable (just) for large single-family homes, but it's a long ass commute.

There's a ton in the Fremont/Hayward area if you're doing a South Bay commute tho, and that opens up Pleasanton a bit more too.

If you're already driving to work then look to neighborhoods nowhere near BART as reasonable proximity to that can add a 1.5-2x multiplier to the price.

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Post by client4 »

micro_cam wrote: post #394
client4 wrote: post #14

Montana, a land of National parks, natural beauty, fast internet, and a low cost of living has a number of high tech jobs open. Full disclosure, I own an internet company here and want more tech savvy people in the area ;) Social Finanace (SoFi) | Helena, MT Oracle | Bozeman, MT OnXMaps | Missoula, MT Zaneray Group | Whitefish, MT Submittable | Missoula, MT Applied Materials | Kalispell, MT

Theorem LP (YC 14) | Hamilton, MT Hillmap.com | Hamilton, MT (I work for the first remotely and founded the second so the presence isn't big but we're here!).

Sorry to not include those guys, I think there's a trucking logistics company over by there as well? And a GSK lab. And Lolo Peak Brewing.

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Post by [deleted] »

groupthink-- wrote: post #224
5706906c06c wrote: post #49

38, two kids and a wife. Have been living in a 900SQ/FT apt, I don't know how much longer I can take this before rage quitting and relocating somewhere else (don't know where). The sad part, as a ethnic-minority, I have just found our community for my kids, etc. It would be really tragic if I have to tear my kids away from that. Don't get me wrong, my daily 30 minute commute on BART isn't the worst. The worst part is…

take my word for it, do it for your kids and stay in california. figure out a way to make the money. just figure it out dude. rent forever if you have to, and don't tell anyone. do whatever it takes. being harassed and ridiculed endlessly for being non-white (i'm guessing asian or indian) somewhere inexpensive and 90% homogenous (white or hispanic or black) will produce extremely negative results, to put it mildly. d…

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Post by client4 »

Bedon292 wrote: post #511
client4 wrote: post #14

Montana, a land of National parks, natural beauty, fast internet, and a low cost of living has a number of high tech jobs open. Full disclosure, I own an internet company here and want more tech savvy people in the area ;) Social Finanace (SoFi) | Helena, MT Oracle | Bozeman, MT OnXMaps | Missoula, MT Zaneray Group | Whitefish, MT Submittable | Missoula, MT Applied Materials | Kalispell, MT

Thanks for the list, MT has been a place I have admired for a while now. Just had not thought of being able to actually support myself there. I am pretty niche as far as my interests go (Geospatial Development) and there aren't a whole lot of options around. OnXMaps is quite interesting though, exactly up my alley. Didn't know about them before.

Our state GIS guys are pretty amazing IMHO. https://www.magip.org/
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