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More importantly they give any government agency free access without any warrant to fulltext search any customer. US law interpretation of IMAP. Only with a POP3 service you are safe.
Source?
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Uncle Sam can root your machine. If Uncle Sam is the threat vector you're better off using pen and paper.
Uncle Sam can’t dragnet root everyone’s machine, but they can (and do) dragnet surveil large email providers not focused on security. “The government can hack anyone, just give up” is a dumb objection if you view security from an economic perspective. Defenders have a huge advantage over attackers that we aren’t sufficiently taking advantage of yet.
Protonmail is a website which can read contents of your email, did I miss something?
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you might want to check yahoo mail then. I work for them (oath now). and at some point all employers were forced to dogfood it. the UI took a while to get used, but now I miss in app tabs witg several emails (in Gmail I need browser tabs). ...Long story short: after yahoo was acquired we moved to gmail. you cannot belive how much more spam shows up on my imbox that I had never seens before. not to mention yahoo took…
Wait, Yahoo uses Google Mail internally? o_o
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you might want to check yahoo mail then. I work for them (oath now). and at some point all employers were forced to dogfood it. the UI took a while to get used, but now I miss in app tabs witg several emails (in Gmail I need browser tabs). ...Long story short: after yahoo was acquired we moved to gmail. you cannot belive how much more spam shows up on my imbox that I had never seens before. not to mention yahoo took…
I would like to respectfully disagree about spam on Yahoo mail. I have so much spam there, you won't believe. And what irks me the most is that a lot of it is easy spam: viagra, etc.
my guess, you probably had the y email much longer than the g one (yahoo mail is a decade older) and you posted that email in too many geocities guestboards. do the same with your g address and report back in 10 years :)
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If Protonmail servers are hacked, it's game over (that could be mitigated by having verified client code, but at this time there's the web client that is served dynamically, and the mobile clients are closed source...). That is where Protonmail are at a huge disadvantage unless they have a really really good security team. Server hacking is done a dime a dozen nowadays.
That's a threat that Gmail faces as well though.
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They do for their new Advanced Protection Program[1]. The regular Gmail service is not really marketed to the security concious users. It's like comparing Android to Qubes OS. Not really fair. For what they are, Google products are surprisingly secure. [1] https://landing.google.com/advancedprotection/
> "Google products are surprisingly secure" For one their products are not "secured" from Google seeing your private data...
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In other words, about as good as gmail but with better control over false positives.
For me, Gmail solves the spam problem. I don't even remember the last time I've had a false positive or a piece of spam that made it to my inbox. My entire family uses Gmail (our domain is hosted via Google Apps) and as far as I know, it's been very close to perfect for all of us.
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Gmail isn't floating around any brochures on security though - it's pitch to the majority of its users is "It's Google and Mail and where most people have their emails. You don't want to be that one weirdo at @yahoo.com do you?" and that just about does it. ProtonMail is trying to recruit users with the brochure. That said, even though the argument is a bit flawed here, I think most attracted by it would still prefer…
Do you really believe people use gmail because of its brand? I don't know about any security brochure, but I know I can setup 2FA to use push notifications (not an insecure SMS number), and can check where all of my logins are from, and have "suspicious" logins blocked automatically, etc, etc. I can also create single-use passwords for insecure devices (such as a youtube password just for my apple TV). Not to mention…